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  1. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    jnaki

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    Very early aircraft side draft carburetors.

    Hello,
    We grew up watching one of the most unusual race cars at Lion’s Dragstrip, near our Westside of Long Beach house. The Sidewinder race car was a Paul Nicolini creation and modified by Joe Mailliard when we saw it. (Sidewinder 2) In the early days it was unusual and the different drivers tried their best to get some power to the ground and go fast.
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    Joe Mailliard side draft carburetors on early Vulcans 32 vicky.
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    Cota Avenue was 4 blocks from our last Westside of Long Beach house.

    The 414 cubic inch Chrysler Hemi motor with a Isky 5 Cycle Cam Venolia pistons, Schiefer clutch and flywheel, Joe Hunt Scintilla Vertex Magneto, a stroker crank, 671 supercharger, and Hilborn Injectors. For $1300 what a deal! (check out the current inflation results! )


    “I will personally guarantee 150 mph and under 10 seconds in the ¼ mile drags. Trial runs to be made in our “Sidewinder” chassis.”

    By the time we saw it, Joe Mailliard had taken over the build and tuning of the unusual race car. The various motors tried had different concoctions and were unusual to say the least.
    original films 1958-59 original sound 1959

    Jnaki
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    The Sidewinder was one of the most unusual builds in all of drag racing, with its history well documented.

    “With the current wave of nostalgia and restored drag race cars, a few really stand out from the herd. Jack Gillett has restored Joe Maillard's Sidewinder, a beautiful piece of drag racing history, that has come to life for all drag fans to enjoy. The Southern California based Gillett spared no expense to bring the fifty year plus car back to its original racing form."

    "It was not an easy task either. Parts and pieces were not available on the Speed Shop shelf, thus Gillett put his machining talents to work making the gears and drive by hand. It took eighteen months of blood, sweat and work to make the Sidewinder race ready.”
    S.Reyes


    In 2017, I was introduced to Jack Gillett (at the original, Lions Dragstrip Museum Grand Opening) who showed me his creation for all of us to see and hear as if it was 1959.

    Thanks, Jack…

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    Jack Gillett reconstruction of the 1959 Sidewinder dragster
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    B. Brown photo
     
  2. 1940Willys
    Joined: Feb 3, 2011
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    From 2015 Chrr Famoso DSCN2524.JPG DSCN2525.JPG
     
  3. Joe's carbs were up draft carbs from a WWII tank.
     
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  4. I finally found a vintage WEIAND 2x4 carb adapter for my 471 blower. I will post pictures when it arrives. Time to get some carbs ready.
     
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  5. saltflats
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
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    saltflats
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    from Missouri

  6. j hansen
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  7. GlassThamesDoug
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  8. Sounds like a nice piece. Pair of 750's perhaps?

     
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  9. 340HilbornDuster
    Joined: Nov 14, 2011
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  10. Here is the rare and hard to find 2x4 471 carb adapter. Of course I had to polish it. I removed as little material as possible when sanding and put a mirror finish on it. WIN_20221024_16_29_27_Pro.jpg WIN_20221024_16_29_39_Pro.jpg WIN_20221024_16_29_53_Pro.jpg
     
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  11. seb fontana
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    Nice reflectiono_O Can't see much, pic plenty dark!
     
  12. Some better pictures just for you.:D WIN_20221025_20_14_32_Pro.jpg WIN_20221025_20_15_29_Pro.jpg With the polished spacers,,
     
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  13. XXL__
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    "Better."
     
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  14. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    jnaki

    upload_2022-10-29_3-57-24.png Bowers and Paris Altered Fiat Coupe

    Hello,

    The Jerry Bowers/Red Paris Altered Coupe #440 was well known in So Cal. The reconstruction version now owned by Jerry Rushing, is a favorite for those that have seen it in the different Lion’s Dragstrip Museum make overs. (2017 original and the 2019 remodeled space.)
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    1964 The Bowers and Paris 440 Fiat Altered at Lions Dragstrip in Long Beach. Red Paris, driver.

    Jnaki

    The Hemi motor was a great example of what was the popular build during those hectic Altered Coupe vs Altered Roadster days.

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    Lion’s Dragstrip Museum 2019 Koby Photo


     
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  15. The vintage adapter is mounted and the carbs rebuilt. I have a base line blower tune in them. I am making linkage and a bracket for the fuel pressure regulator . I am pondering running a old shark mouth scoop I have or run it like this. WIN_20221105_16_19_02_Pro.jpg WIN_20221105_16_20_24_Pro.jpg WIN_20221105_16_20_00_Pro.jpg
     
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  16. saltflats
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    Probably not much air flow in those filters.
     
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  17. Just for mock up^^^.;)Squirrel - Jim runs those paper filters on his gasser. I had them laying around in my stash and set them up on to see how it looks.
     
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  18. seb fontana
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    How did they get the rubber marks in the floor of the museum? Real application or paint?:D
     
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  19. jnaki
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    jnaki





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    Hey S,
    The Altered Class Bowers and Paris Fiat Coupe and Winged Express T-Roadster put their driveshafts back in place and did several burnouts to fill up the whole cavernous warehouse space... with some smoke... WELL...
    upload_2022-11-5_18-10-26.png "Pssst...Hey... lets put the driveshaft back in and squirt some fuel in the injectors. We can leave some burnout tracks without anyone suspicious during the lunch break. Everyone will all be gone to lunch and no one will be the wiser...!!! HA"

    Jnaki
    Realism, but far fetched...although those Altereds can be run in any place once they are set up again...

    But, in this case in 2019, the fantastic artists involved in the drag racing artwork all over the museum on set up days did the realistic art. Check out the HAMB threads on who is who in that art work at the Lion's Dragstrip Museum. Close up, it definitely looks like someone was happy on a full throttle run.
     
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  20. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    jnaki

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    Hello,


    Joel Gruzen’s version of Gary Cagle’s old Roadster is immaculate. The effort is amazing, it is just like seeing Gary Cagle in the original Newhouse Roadster blasting down the Lion’s Dragstrip back in those early days.

    For me, the twin Hilborn Injection set up is what we saw in those early days, but, the “Bug catcher” is a nice clean system, too. A toss up for choice, that is for sure.
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    Jnaki


    No, those header covers are not another form of induction for the pit crew, either.

     
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  21. tricky steve
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  22. ^^^^Love that car Steve, one of my all time favorites :) ^^^^
     
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  23. tricky steve
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    THANK YOU : )
     
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  24. deadbeat
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  25. Mikey, did you get a chance to shake it down before the weather turned?

    QUOTE="mad mikey, post: 14667149, member: 239225"]The vintage adapter is mounted and the carbs rebuilt. I have a base line blower tune in them. I am making linkage and a bracket for the fuel pressure regulator . I am pondering running a old shark mouth scoop I have or run it like this. View attachment 5562872 View attachment 5562873 View attachment 5562874 [/QUOTE]
     
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  26. Yea Steve. Got some tuning in the day before Thanksgiving. I have the tune very close, A/F numbers looking good, just a little tweaking yet. The throttle response is fantastic. I have the old dragster scoop body worked and almost ready for paint. I really like the 2x4 set up on the vintage carb-blower top. WIN_20221216_16_15_06_Pro.jpg WIN_20221126_15_26_32_Pro.jpg
     
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