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2.3 lima carburetor

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by El frenchy, Jan 5, 2023.

  1. El frenchy
    Joined: Jan 5, 2023
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    El frenchy

    Hello i m french Guy and i have a shay model a pickup with a 2.3 Ford
    The look of the engine is Bad .
    .. Can you Say me the carburetor in this pictures? Thanks and sorry for my english.
     
  2. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

  3. 34Phil
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    Holley/Weber 32/36
     
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  4. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    Ok thanks i think a Holley but what thé carburetor cover? Handmade?
     
  5. PhilA
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    Looks like it may be home-made from the fan shroud of a small engine (lawn mower, generator)?
     
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  6. Rex_A_Lott
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    Depending on what you want to do, Google Esslinger, they did a bunch of work on those old 2.0 and 2.3 Pinto engines.
    Not exactly Hamb friendly on the surface, but it appears you have it in a nice car!
    Good Luck.
     
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  7. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    More expensive in France a 2.3 turbo
     
  8. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    I think a generator
     
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  9. PhilA
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    To add a little detail to this for our Stateside readers...

    Here in the USA there's very little to stop the owner of a vehicle from upgrading, changing or otherwise altering their vehicle to go faster.

    In a lot of Europe the vehicle is checked annually to ensure it conforms to the paperwork (in this case to the engineer's report that was issued at the time the engine was fitted to the car) and that matches the do***entation.

    If not, it fails and is not allowed to be used on the road until another engineer's report is created after a thorough teardown and inspection is p***ed through the system, which involves a not insignificant amount of money, time and paperwork.

    Basically what's in there, outside of cosmetic changes, must stay.
     
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  10. inthweedz
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    The cover looks like it's been made out of a heavy aluminum cooking pot.. Milled and drilled, and mounted upside down..
     
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  11. PhilA
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    I wasn't going to say cooking pot because it has that stretched shape. Bedpan maybe.
     
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  12. gimpyshotrods
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    If it is original to the engine, it is a Holley 5200.

    That's a slight revision from the Weber 32/36, under license, and most parts interchange.

    It has smaller venturi. If I remember correctly, it would be a 26/27.
     
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  13. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    I have a weber 36/38 on but when i tape on Google venturi 1926 Ford i dont have....
     
  14. doyoulikesleds
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    Newer than 1965 but thats only a guess
     
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  15. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    I think an s&s carb air filtrer cover
     
  16. Bearcat_V8
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    from Dexter, MI

     
  17. finn
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    It’s been forty years, but that doesn’t look like the Holley Weber I had.

    Perhaps my memory is incorrect. I had both a 2.0 German engine and a 2.3 Lima. Not sure the Lima was a Weber, but the 2.0 was. Some of the later, 80s Rangers with a 2.3 had what I recall as being a Mitsubishi sourced pos carb. I have one of those, but can’t verify since it’s buried till spring.
     
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  18. Tim
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    That’s a local car but I don’t know who owns it @sodbuster or @flatout51 might? Been a few years since I’ve seen it. I’d guess that air cleaner is a boat piece. See a lot of stuff that looks like that come of boats and out board motors.

    @cactus1 May also know? I saw it at the misfits show about 6-7 years ago
     
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  19. gimpyshotrods
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    Pinto. Lima and Holley/Weber 5200. Same combo came in a whole mess of stuff in North/Central/South America, and Europe.

    There is a spacer/adapter on top, over the choke area, and under the air cleaner.

    [​IMG]
    All of these adapters that I have dealt with appear to be made of cast Zinc and not aluminum alloy. Zinc tends to oxidize to the exact gray that you find on that adapter in his picture.

    The general problem with this cl*** of Weber or Holley/Weber is that they all look about the same.

    The OEM ones were Holley/Weber and fell generally into two models, the 5200-series, and the 6500-series, of which there are several variants.

    All of those look reasonably like the Weber models 23/27, 26/27, 23/29, 28/30, 32/36, 34/34, 38/38, etc.

    To make things even more confusing, Weber made at least four physical layouts of each, for different fitments. Mostly they were just flipped, mirrored, or both, in-terms of barrel side, and linkage side.

    As I have mentioned, a 5200 found on an all-original 2300cc Ford-4 has smaller venturi than the 32/36.

    If it is a Weber (sans Holley) it will be stamped on the base flange what it is.

    upload_2023-1-6_11-38-56.png

    If it is a Holley/Weber, it once had a tag under one of the screws that hold down the top, by the fuel inlet:
    upload_2023-1-6_11-39-44.png

    With the exception of the addition in later years of an anti-dieseling valve, and a computer feedback circuit for emissions control, these all largely look the same.

    Much of the parts interchange, save for some revisions, like a jet diameter change.

    Mostly they vary by venturi size, and physical layout
     
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  20. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    Very cool thanks
     
  21. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    A spacer under the air cleaner ?
     
  22. gimpyshotrods
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    The top of that carburetor is not round.

    It looks like this:
    [​IMG]

    The the outlet (engine side) or your air cleaner is round. These two things do not go together without something to make it happen.

    If you remove your air cleaner completely from the dark gray housing below it, that dark gray housing has a round inlet.

    If you then remove the four screws/bolts that are at the top of that dark gray housing, you will see the actual carburetor.

    Le dessus de ce carburateur n'est pas rond.

    La sortie (côté moteur) de votre filtre à air est ronde. Ces deux choses ne vont pas ensemble sans quelque chose pour y arriver.

    Si vous retirez complètement votre filtre à air du boîtier gris foncé en dessous, ce boîtier gris foncé a une entrée ronde.

    Si vous retirez ensuite les quatre vis/boulons qui se trouvent en haut de ce boîtier gris foncé, vous verrez le carburateur réel.
     
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  23. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    I know thanks very much
     
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  24. finn
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    That’s more like what I remember.
     
  25. gimpyshotrods
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    Take that bit, and stick something akin to this bit on it:

    [​IMG]
    Then toss on a round air filter, and you have what he has.

    I think what he as looks just fine. I would drive it until the wheels fell off, put them back on, and keep driving.
     
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  26. gimpyshotrods
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    Qu'est-ce que vous n'aimez pas dans l'apparence de ce moteur?

    Qu'aimerait tu changer?
     
  27. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    Valve cover...
     
  28. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    It s very cool but i dont see the same on internet. What the site ?
     
  29. gimpyshotrods
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    Have a machine shop make you a finned overlay for the existing valve cover, that pattern matches the air filter.

    Bolt it on, and paint it all to match.
     
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  30. El frenchy
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    El frenchy

    Very interested by the proposition. You have a Facebook ?
     

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