Hot Rods 32 Fords for sale, why so many?

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[QUOTE="DDDenny, post: 14767018, member: 260805)I've seen a few here on the HAMB and it seems that's the only reason they are here.[/QUOTE]


Yes D DDenny , on the Classifieds there are Several Sellers that are here That Do Not Contribute to ANY Threads Just sell /advertise there stuff & are Very misleading in the description,,,
Like to see a post Report option in classifieds....

My Two , or Any of my stuff , I do not want
""" Non"" of my Family to inherit the 32s for free!!!!! Except my parents if they out live me,

 

I mentioned in another thread a buddy of mine had 3. Tipped over at age 63 and they went to new homes.
Another friend has 5 project cars he has owned for years with no plans to sell at age 78.
Doesn't care what they are worth, just likes looking at them. I'll be selling them when he's gone

"Am I the bad guy for making money on my investment of time, labor, space, and knowledge?"
No. Your the guy who stepped up and did it. I have done the same and it doesn't take long for the armchair price monitors to start yapping. Good for you.

 

It is a sellers market for off topic cars due to how much new cars cost. Perhaps sellers of classics think that applies to theirs as well?

 

Guys probably looking for more room to stretch out…like in a 33-34!

 

I thought the sky only fell in the spring. Trick question, do you try to sell when there's an active market or wait til it ain't worth a bent dick? All this stuff is hot rt now. Why, well the sky isn't falling so maybe there's more ppl "discovering" hot rods at the moment. "...they're all dying..." "...no interest..." again. Ok, I'll do ya a favor and give you 5 grand for that old roadster with the small block.

 

I don't see a problem with that Matt, bet you might even have learned that from others. It's been done respectably for as long as this hobby has existed. You're just a good example of carrying on the tradition.

 

I think the money is going to be in electric conversions . . .

 

All this talk of "the end" reminds me to drive the crap out of them (anything you have) and have fun 'till the end.........then who cares

 

Ya, it looks like they are giving them away at prices from 50 grand to 95 grand. Not.

 

People are living far longer than anyone expected that they would when they planned for retirement.

My grandfather, for instance, never had it in his plans to live for 30-years after he retired.

When he died, he was broke, and renting out rooms in his house.

Medical debt, even with insurance, wipes out people's finances, too.

 

@Hitchhiker preaching the truth on the first page.

I've also been told I can expect the market to drop out and old cars to get dirt cheap, I've been told that my entire life. Still waiting on that, and looking back, prices I paid 10 or 15 years ago seem comically cheap compared to anything I'm finding today.

Another thing I'll say here is, I'm 42 and I have lots of friends my age or younger who would love a '32 Ford, but we're not going to pay $100K for a street rodded one, and no one I know would consider a replica body, fiberglass or steel. But the real thing will always find a home.

 

I'm 61 and I've gotten things organized over the last few years but I still need to document everything better. I've got several finished 32 thru 36 coupes and roadsters and a few finished Model A coupes and roadsters and a dozen more model A projects at various points in progress and it doesn't look to me like the market is slowing down any although I wish it would so I could afford to buy more! 40+ years ago, I got an education so I could get a good IT job and be able to afford to play with these old cars in my spare time and I hope that I've got another 20+ years in me to do so.
I know a couple different guys who are in the old car business and both are worried/panicked not because things are slow, they are worried sick because they are so far behind and can't begin to keep up. They are both three years out and have to turn down well paying projects multiple times a week. I don't know where you people are that are seeing things slow down but they're not in SW Missouri. Yeah Missouri.

 

Yep. The younger generation is much more concerned with it being real. I do believe fiberglass cars will see the market soften. But there will always be a strong market for original steal.

 

This is what I see as well. Guys/shops who can do any part of the process well, are booked out seemingly forever. And as old junkyards get picked over and crushed out, the market for good pieces gets more competitive, assuming the seller is willing to pack and ship whatever it is they're selling (convenience makes the price skyrocket).

I see no dwindling enthusiasm for old cars. I see only dwindling supplies of replacement parts and a great loss of experienced workers/shops involved in the kinds of trades it takes to build cars.

As far as the parts go, a big influx of flippers/dealers would drive the price down, as there aren't enough people finding the stuff and making it available. The stuff that isn't found in time is often scrapped or thrown away, in my experience. Maybe not true for dealers/investors in completed cars, but certainly true of the parts and pieces it takes to build them.

 

While I have to agree with DDDenny in that there are a lot of flippers out there trying to take advantage I have to think that many may be for sale because the 32 Ford thing got marked off the bucket list and a good number of guys who sold or are selling them have all the bucket list boxes marked off for owning that car. A buddy of mine took a rather rough chopped 5 window throught a several year process of getting it running and driving and driving it to the 2016 Deuce Days NW that he got sideswiped by a semi on the way home and then rebuilt it (with a lot of our own Rocket's hot rod garage) help into a seriously nice fully finished car that he drove to Louisville for the Street Rod National and made Hamb coveage, drove to Wendover for show and tell at the casino on the way back and then drove to the 2019 Deuce Days Northwest and somewhat lost interest in after he sold the small farm he had and moved into a house in town. I'm thinking that after all the boxes got marked off he was ready to move on. The car is now on the east coast and he has a pretty nice 55/56 Victoria that he has been wheeling around town.
Over the past 50 years of active rodding I have met a lot of guys who get into rodding for a short while and then move on to something else. I still meet guys all the time who want to build the car that they wanted in high school. Age dictating what car they want to build to a high degree. I'm thinking that a number of these cars that you see come up for sale every three or years helped the guy who has them mark the boxes off on the list and he is ready to move on to the next item on the list. For a rare few, it may mean that the car no longer works for what you want to do or in come cases no longer fits. A 32 isn't as small inside as a Model A but I have known a couple of guys who went from 32 Fords to Fat fender cars simply because they were more comfortable in the fat fender cars. One I know did it because he couldn't take his grandkids in the 5 window. The 40 had room for the grands in the back seat and a huge trunk for everything that was needed for a weekend.

 

I think there is some truth to the “Aging Out” theory. People tend to like and want the cars that were popular when they were in high school or young adults. Many couldn’t afford those cars back then but eventually buy them or build them later in life. I’m 76 and like the prewar coupes, roadsters and sedans. A lot of guys ten to fifteen years younger are all into the muscle cars of the 60’s.Ten to fifteen younger than that and it’s probably cars of the seventies and eights. Guys in their eighties and nineties probably like the antique cars or brass cars. There are always exceptions. Go to a really big car event and there’s a lot less old ( prewar) roadsters, coupes and sedans than there were ten years ago. These cars may still be around and just not being used or health prevents being used and the decision comes to get rid of a car you’re not/can’t use anymore. Many older people make a decision to get rid of a house with a shop/garage in favor of a condo or (gulp) senior housing and there is just no room for that hot rod. Time to consolidate or the kids getting rid of stuff because they have no interest. What’s great is there cars for every age and people are still buying what the liked way back when!

 

Owners got too old, cant get in and out so they're selling.

 

Generalizations are easy. I know someone who's in his young 40s. Packard Enthusiast. Another, 45, all early Ford from A thru mid 60s. I know guys in their 70s, fkn muscle car nuts. The cream ALWAYS rises to the top. 32s tend to be pretty fkn creamy. Hey, y'all coulda bought a Gullwing for 10Gs or less in the 70s, now their almost $2M. Why didn't you? I was too young so I'm off the hook...
My uncle wanted to buy $100K worth of cars to put away for 25yrs. "What do think kid, what should we buy?" "Every rust free big block 4spd muscle car we can get." I was 14. "You gotta be the dumbest motherfucker walkin the face of the earth." He built some houses instead, those cars languished in the backs of car lots everywhere. Asian cars, gas mileage, 1,500-2500 got you 454s, Cobra Jets, 440s 440 6 packs. Badassery like Boss 9s and Hemis were a couple bucks more. Shelbys were 5 grand and so were the later L-88s. I bought 3 different houses off the profits of muscle cars thru the 80s n 90s.
Yes, I'm still a Packard guy although more vicariously than anything else. Not like I got a spare 500K for a Packard 12 conv. Yeah, I guess I mentioned a lotta "creamy" stuff huh?

 

Sort of like back when T buckets were everywhere…there were lots of T buckets for sale.

 

Let's face it. There are probably more 32 roadsters in California today than what ford made world wide. And most of them are just cookie cutter sbc or sbf and auto with a kit chassis under them

 

There are three types of 1932 Ford buyers, Finished turn key buyers, Project buyers, and the guys that buy '32 Ford parts. It has been that way since the 1950's, the '32 stuff has always cost more.

 

Well..... "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
And, let's face it, there just aren't enough factory '32s to go around.
How people choose to build their own car shouldn't concern you..........

 

When I was born in 1949 the world's population was two billion today it's eight billion.
I'm thinking a lot more people than cars .

 

"I think there is some truth to the “Aging Out” theory. People tend to like and want the cars that were popular when they were in high school or young adults. Many couldn’t afford those cars back then but eventually buy them or build them later in life. "

I been saying this for a while. Just watch who shows up at auctions for pre-1955 cars and trucks. IMHO the "market" is being impacted by increased supply due to aging and the number of investors entering the market. What concerns me long term is the decline in purchasing power, inflation and taxes. When I got married at 27 we bought a small 2bdrm house at 3.5X our combined gross annual income. A new Ford or Chevy pickup was less than 1/2 our combined income. The same house in the same job is now 10-12X the income, the pickup 2X. Even if there is interest, there is little chance of a guy in his 20s or 30s having the funds to build a hot rod or custom in most cities.
From what I see, there are VERY few guys who have a garage and one car they built. Its either zero or a collection of 5-30 cars which they hold as an investment. These buyers buy finished cars, not projects from my experience. The chances of an oil delivery driver owning a steel 1932 Ford roadster or a postal employee a 1951 Mercury convertible are about zero without inheritance these days.

I'm sure that people will jump on me with "I know X younger guys building a XX", yes, but as a %, its infinitesimal to the population in that age category. Our hobby is a niche in a niche classic market.

 

And there are those that just can’t drive them anymore, or know it will be soon, don’t like what’s needed to keep a 90 year old car on the road, either stock or modified.
Heck, if I was busy or out of town (lived next door to my folks) and if my dad needed an oil change, into town he went. This was a guy who built his own 8 foot scraper, dozer blade for his D4, and so much more.
You get older, and some lose the drive and ambition.

At 61 I’m still putting the kids cars on wood ramps for oil changes, can still slide under my daily PU and do it (although the effer is lowering itself between oil changes it seems).

 

After owning a 32 for a few years and driving it to shows and rod runs I wonder if as the owners get older they want a more comfortable ride. So sell the 32 and buy a 50's or 60's car with an automatic, cruise, ps, pb, and air conditioning. Then maybe the wife would even want to come with.

 

There’s some validity is what you have said re:investment, but I do have 5 projects, and at 61 I might get two done. None are an investment for me. For as long as I’ve had them and as long ago as I spent the money for them, I just like doing something in my free time on them. All have that sentimental value to me now, two were handed down, 3 were a purchase. But I’d rather dink around here and there, let my mind make plans on the next step, etc, than sit back on a day off and watch a game(and I am a sports nut) so all my game days are 95% on the radio.
I guess they all will be easy to sell when I’m gone, if my kids want 1k or 10k etc, I trust them to figure it out. They may have only briefly enjoyed them , hope they enjoy the few $$ longer