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Technical A Kid's First Project: 1957 Fairlane 500 Town Victoria.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The_Cat_Of_Ages, Apr 7, 2021.

  1. Budget36
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    In a sense, but not really. Electrical components begin to break down with heat. But the difference between a 10 degree day and a 100 degree day isn’t an issue.
    Colder air is usually denser and contains more moisture than warmer air.
    Clean the carb properly and put a kit in it and work from there.
     
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  2. thats the thing, thats been done twice now.
     
  3. guthriesmith
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    1. H.A.M.B. Chapel

    I’ll see if we can take a video soon. And, not sure I have ever had any heat shields on old car exhaust but I’m sure they can’t hurt anything. :D
     
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  4. That was the best place. The OG 6-cylinder the muffler was close to the driver seat. They tuck up nicely. My '64 Fords with the big blocks all had resonators out back.
     
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  5. Budget36
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    Not to belittle yourself, but carburetor rebuilding is more than a soak and replace the parts that come in the kit.
    Your problem with bit running smoother in the colder weather may not be carburetor related, but I can’t see it being a coil, condenser or a ballast resistor.
    Hang in there, you’ll get it sorted out and learn a lot in the process!
     
  6. the carb is near perfectly clean... i might just buy another carb kit, this time one from mikes so i can get decent quality parts.
     
  7. oliver westlund
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    Why not grab an autolite from the junkyard and get it running? Doesnt stop you from rebuilding your holley a 3rd or 4th time and sticking it on some weekend down the road....enjoy that car and drive it!! Just my 2 cents. Ive had those dog autolites on the shelf for years, pop em on and they go...kind of like edelbrocks, not the vest carb for performance but they tune easy and get you feom a to b and back again
     
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  8. ive determined its definitely not a richness problem, its absolutely ignition, must have burnt the points at some point, i also should probably bump the advance from 3 degrees to about 6, as thats what automatic cars ran.
     
  9. i thought about that but this car came with a holley, so intend to keep it a holley
     
  10. The little Holley and Autolites and some of the easiest carbs to rebuild. No harm in keeping a spare around. I still have a Holley 4412 wrapped up and boxed from 1983 or so.
     
  11. i guess i'll get another mikes kit and go through it again
     
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  12. The biggest hurdle for me was getting the exterior linkage right once it was assembly time. I am quite dsylexic (spelled that wrong I'm sure...) and have struggled with intricate things. A digital camera and phones have saved my ass more than a few times. My advice, take "before" shots... many.
     
  13. i think the issue is ignition, the brake master is here so im going to let the black corvair rest for a bit while i look for a set of 80hp carbs for the white one, and install the dual master setup, i might finally have brakes that work

    (shamless plug, but by the way, i got the black corvair running)
     
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  14. bench bleeding the master cylinder, lines are run and ready to go
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  15. immediately after this picture i realized i made a major mistake.
    I shouldnt have installed that pushrod. my dad had a solution however. i had been tugging on it for nearly an hour with a bar of metal by hand. he said "Watch this" and grabbed a slide hammer. he got it out in 3 smacks. the master is installed and the eccentric is adjusted to 1/16 tolerance. i have one line that is being a pain and wont thread in, but its very close, after that i will bleed the brakes and reflare the fuel line going to the carb.
     
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    installed and bled, taught my girlfriend how to be the pedal side of brake bleeding, 7 pumps and hold.
     
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  17. SS327
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    You’re mean it’s 3 and hold on the 4th one! Glad you got the black vair running how does it sound? Drive?
     
  18. it sounds amazing,
    My father taught me 7 and it seems to work very well, so thats the one i use.
    the black corvair isnt driving yet, i probably could yard drive it without brakes but i need to resolve the "gasoline pouring out of the carb" issue first.
     
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  19. SS327
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    Fill the float bowls with some Sea-Foam and let it sit for a few days then tap on the float bowl with the end of a screw driver and see if that does not free up the stuck float.
     
  20. the float works, the issue is the needle and seat seems pitted? it either wont seal or seals too well and starves the carb
     
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  21. also, i cleaned that wiper motor and rebuilt it with new gaskets, still doesnt work, not sure what i did wrong but it seems to have a lot of resistance? the wipers are easy to move by hand without the motor.
     
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  22. I'm not even going to touch this one...:D:D:D
     
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  23. you know how i was saying about how rich it was running? apparently this carb doesnt like the standard height for the float, it needs to be adjusted down... by a lot, and then it runs perfectly, even a quarter turn massively affects the quality of how it runs.

    on top of that my float bowl brass is apparently stripped, so i need a replacement of one of those. but im slowly working out how to make a carburetor work.
    and to think i started to think it was just cursed.
     
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  24. Is that the Holley? The float setting is super easy on those.
     
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  25. well, i set it to parallel with the bowl, as thats the height it was supposed to be. apparently that's too high for this motor or carb, so i adjusted it down a bit, and it immediately ran better.
     
  26. With the car level, I remove the plug and let gravity take over, adjust the float accordingly. Odd to me that the carb is that sensitive. It may be interesting to see what your fuel pressure is.
     
  27. well, its 150 cfm over stock, so thats a major reason. fuel pressure is whatever the fuel pump says it is, i think 4-5 psi? its also running through a filter inline. it doesnt like when its set so the fuel is just coming out of the sight plug. I wish i had someone who really knew Holleys nearby to come help with tuning and diagnosis.
     
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  28. If you have to adjust it down, then the float is "heavy". Saturated? Maybe find a new float, and re-adjust with that.
     
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  29. Huh, I didn't think of that, there was a slight dent in it that i didnt think much about, could be affecting the float.
    At least i have a spare i can swap it with from the parts carb. i didnt swap it before as it was filthy. can some mineral spirits clean it up?
     
  30. Probably, but spray carb cleaner should do just fine.
     
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