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Technical open trailer tires

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  1. big john d
    Joined: Nov 24, 2011
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    had a blow out on the way home from the drags took out taillamp and fender what would you recommend to replace the 205/75x14r on the trailer now thanks
     
  2. egads
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    Gladiator trailer tires[​IMG].
     
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  3. TA DAD
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    I still use bias ply tires on my trailer, same size as yours. The current ones are HI-RUNS. They don't tend to separate like a radial .
     
  4. squirrel
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    A new tire, plus new ones to replace all the other old tires on the trailer.

    And make sure they have enough pressure in them whenever you use the trailer.
     
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  5. Budget36
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    ^^^^^I don’t have a car trailer, but pull a 4 horse trailer 3/4 times a year. I always have to put some air in the tires before each use.
    It’s so easy to neglect it, just like a daily driver.
     
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  6. Big Dad
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    For work , I have my guys pull 22 foot open trailers , almost every day each pickup goes 400+ miles all types of weather .. I use 16 ply tires and we have one blow out in 5 years and we load the trailers heavy ..

    I do change them out as soon as they show they are getting worn out , normally get 3-4 months out of them about 25,000-30,000 miles or so
     
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  7. Tickety Boo
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    After blowing out 3 trailer tires on one trip "they were 10 years old " the shop that replaced two of them asked if I ever rotated them o_O He said that on a tandem axle trailer the front tires always flex in on a sharp turn while the rear tire flexed out, rotating them from front to back would extend their lifespan.
     
  8. Tickety Boo
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    I also quit trying to keep trim rings on the trailers chevy truck rally wheels, thought they were being stolen for a while untill I realized the rims are flexing during turns and spitting the trim rings off. :oops:
     
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  9. And I bet you still use drum breaks on it to, you need to upgrade to radials and discs to make it safe and streetable!:D
     
  10. squirrel
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    you might find that wheels made for trailer use are thicker than those for pickup truck use...for just this reason....
     
  11. bobbytnm
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    Trailer tires are a real pain in the rear.
    I think the biggest killer for trailer tires is lack of use. For most of use we aren't using our trailers on a regular basis. I think thats what kills the tires.
    I've talked to a lot of oilfield equipment rental companies. They rent out light towers, generators, trash trailers, etc. When asked about tires most report that they aren't having separation issues at all. I tried to see if there is a particular brand that was preferred and didn't find any correlation. The tires being used ranged all across the modern Chinese trailer tire array.
    Now, put the same tires on a trailer only used a few times a year and they tent to start tossing treads off every other year or so. My travel trailer hasn't moved in 5 years. I'm afraid to move it. I just know it will cost a set of tires to get it down the road....LOL When the tread comes off at highway speed it tears hell out of the side of the trailer.

    Now, I try to keep them out of direct sunlight, keep them aired up, and keep them rolling when I can. I have radial trailer tires on my travel trailer(s) ((both of them)), my 6x10 single axle trailer. I have regular light truck tires on my flatdeck tandem utility trailer.
     
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  12. 26 T Ford RPU
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    The tires flex in both ways per axle on turns... think about it and on a return trip they will all flex close to the same amount. JW
     
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  13. Tow Truck Tom
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    As usual, squirrel calls it.
    I'm sure you have a gauge
    When I Pulled Semis the Companies stressed checking every trailer when hooking up.
    The lower the pressure, the more they flex.
    The more flex, they hotter they get.
    The hotter they get, the sooner they die.:(
    On the big roads, hour after hour I've seen far too many fails, and way too much property loss.
    I am speaking about private trailers. Boats, cargo, campers, custom (eek!) cars etc.
    That's a LOT of Heartbreak
    But never Race cars they got their **** together
     
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  14. big john d
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    the tires were and are four years old and are set to 50 psi every time it goes out they are stored inside at the end of race season and are not in the sun during race season( put in the shade ) also found one other had a small separation of the tread
     
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  15. Basically All of The Above!

    Knock on wood, but it has been at least 10 years since I had an actual blowout on either of my trailers regardless of tire brand & that is 120k-150k miles per year, every year. Pick up a nail or piece of metal that causes a slow leak from time to time, but I always check my stuff & most of the time they are stored inside

    Proper tire pressure, rotating them, using a 10 ply or stronger tire, covering them if they are going to sit outside in the sun all the time, replace them with they get to the tread wear indicators OR if they get too old.

    Everyone's trailers & applications are different & what works for me won't always work for others, but since I have one of my babies in the trailer or one of my customers babies in there...I do everything I can to ensure nothing happens!

    Out of all the tire brands I have used over the decades, my favorite tire was the Goodyear Marathon that they haven't made in many years, the replacement was the Endurance. Got half the mileage from those. Have used Goodyears, Carlisles, Maxims, Journeys, & now Freedoms (Chineseium I am sure) with pretty much the same results other than the Maxim 8008's did not like being on the front axle. The belts started to break half way through their life.

    God Bless
    Bill
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
     
  16. squirrel
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    Four years old is nearing the end of it's life....

    50 psi might be enough, might not. Depends on the tire, and the trailer and the load. It might be that it's not nearly enough pressure, and contributed to the failure.
     
  17. big john d
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    50 psi is the pressure recommended on the sidewall total weight is4300 pounds with trailer and car
     
  18. squirrel
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    maybe you could move up to load range D tires?
     
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  19. big john d
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    it sounds like what i need to do any recommendation on tire brand
     
  20. Budget36
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    Hey Bill, are the brands you use an “ST” or a radial, etc?

    I’ve been kicking tires pun intended) on replacing the ones on my trailer.
     
  21. Zax
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    I carry two spares on my trailer. Trailer tires are not very good quality these days. Typically they will start to cause a shake or vibration before they totally let go. I can change a trailer tire in less than 15 minutes now and be back on the road.

    I have thought about going with a higher quality tire. But with the 5 or 6 times a year I tow long distance i'm not sure it's worth it.
     
  22. squirrel
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    Nope.....might look up some trailer forums, there are a lot of folks with travel trailers who talk a lot about tires for them
     
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  23. mitch 36
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    Good Year Endurance ST tires are load range D and made in USA. I use them on all my trailers, have never had an issue, although mine are Balanced, Rotated and PSI checked OFTEN. I noticed that U-HAUL uses Carlile (sp?) tires on all their trailers, must be good also...I refuse to buy any China-bombs, they always explode when you least expect it. Mitch
     
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  24. If you could fit 15 inch tires instead of 14's, you would open up many more options! Go with an E range 10 ply & with what you are doing, you would never have another issue!

    Journey Heavy Haulers or Freedom Haulers both worked fine for my trailer. 3175 Lbs empty & most of the cars I end up transporting are under 4500lbs

    @Budget36 they are ALL ST Radials! In the old days I ran LT tires (same as what was on one of my trucks back then) & had no problem with them either (Yokahama Geolanders), but that was 20 years or so ago! Your ears must have been burning....Lloyd & I were just talking about you!:D

    God Bless
    Bill
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
     
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  25. Boneyard51
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    One thing no one has mentioned is balancing trailer tires! It saves were and tear on the tries and the trailer! The tire guys always look at me like I’m crazy for balancing trailer tires! But it’s my money! I have probably 12 trailers, that I used to use a lot, one is a regular 16 ft utilities trailer that I bet has 100,000 miles on it and still has the original suspension on it! I have seen trailers with way less miles with totally wore out suspensions…..I blame the tires!




    Bones
     
  26. YES!

    Balancing makes a huge difference to the life of a trailer tire.

    I use CounterAct balance beads in ALL my trailer tires, that way as the tire wears it still stays balanced. I use them in One of my trucks (the other has Centramatics that I bought before I found out about CounterAct Balance Beads) Also all my cl***ics use them as well.

    God Bless
    Bill
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
     
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  27. I just had an ST trailer tire replaced
    today for free in Eugene, Oregon
    at Discount Tire Company because
    I purchased the optional free replacement
    certificate when I bought the tire and
    had them install it.

    My only cost was to buy another
    certificate for $35.

    No pro rating of the tire.
    Good for the life of the tire.


    Jim
     
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  28. mohr hp
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    I like Ma**is 8008 trailer tires. Not cheap.
     
  29. Tow Truck Tom
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    Hey big john d,,, I need to apologize. I am embar***ed to say that I hadn't realy read your post.
    Sorry,,,, but when I see trailer my, brain conjurs up all those scenes of roadside heartbreak of citizens losing the day.
    Then comes the rant.
    Looking back shocked to find that you have it together, do race.
    And I am a Blowhard
    :oops:
     
  30. big john d
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    tow truck tom no need to apologize i take good care of my stuff and am proud of it my trailer ia 24 years old and i constantly get people who think it is new i am just looking for other peoples help trying to keep it safe and trouble free it is the only trailer i have owned and up to this point has been pretty trouble free
     

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