Technical 1941 Ford 1/2 TON, PICTURE NEEDED

Like the title says, I need a picture or two of the lower hood latch assembly, the one in the grille.
This is mine, but there is nothing for the main latch (in back) to hook to?

I have this one as well...

but I was told it was for a 40 and that the 41 was different. And another somebody told me the 6-cylinder trucks were different from the 8-cylinder trucks on theses brackets. It all very confusing.

I would appreciate a little photographic assistance please.

 

Exploded views from parts catalogs are very good

 

Everything I have read says the six cylinder is different, if using V8 bracket it has to be modified. I think the difference is where your hand is on the cross brace it is farther forward to compensate for the longer engine. Do you know anybody who has a grill for 40-41 truck?

 

I had the parts for my ‘42. Was on the FordBarn at the time. Asked a similar question, got pics and the drawings posted up.

 

You're first pic is correct for the 41 they are the same 6 or 8 the second pic is 40 std and 40 pu The hood mechanism is the big difference ,the 41 has a triangle shape latch at the front of the hood where as the 40 is a t-brace style like a 40 Std brace, grilles are the same, post a pic of your hood latch assembly.

 

I tried that already, and they weren't. A lot of this stuff is not reproduced. If I had a picture I could modify mine to work is what I am thinking.

That goes along with what I have been told and makes sense.

I did a search over at the barn but I didn't find the answer. I am not a member to ask questions.

 

Send a Pic of the hood latch assembly, don't listen to the 42 stuff its a different animal.

 

This is the hood latch.

I removed it from my 41 hood after sawing all the bolts off so I believe it to be original.

 

So that is correct for the grille brace in the first picture providing all the trim and latch is 41 1/2 ton I just went thru this on my 40 which was put together for a swap meet, hood would not latch, discovered it 40 latch mechanism and 41 grille brace like yours, 2 inches difference at the latch point

 

Billy, was going to send you a picture of my 40 hood latch, then saw the picture of your 41 latch and thought never mind. Can’t figure ol’ Henry out, used second hand shipping crates for floorboards, my 40 hood latch works without a hitch. For someone as, shall we say frugal, as Henry was, why change the latch for a one year run?

 

In summary, you are saying I have the correct latch (the part in the hood) and grille piece for my 41? My waterfall and handle are 41 1/2 ton. I know they differ from the 1 ton trucks.

I have no idea why there would be so many changes in something that looks identical and seemed to work, but that is what we seem to have here.

 

It looks like everything you have is correct, if t wont latch it all comes down to hood, grille and fender alignment, some good advise here and on the ford barn, it took me about 3 days to get mine sorted.

 

Also in your first pic at the back of the flat bar to the rear, underneath is a round heavy bar the hook catches on.

 

So, this panel (aftermarket obviously) is going to need alteration. Judging from what I have learned here, the hook hole needs to be about halfway between the existing holes and aligns with the back of that flat bar in picture number 1.

 

Billy, I think you just Login to The Fordbarn using your Hamb Screename and password...no need to add extra info...I think...once logged in I think you can post a Thread just as you do here...just pick the right Forum...

 

Little late, but looks like you have the 4/6 cyl grille. Here's from the club book (sorry no scanner or good photoshop program).

 

I have the same setup in my '41 as yours with no secondary latch, just the main one with the handle.

 

My point was that I got pics and drawing of it explaining it all.
Certainly wasn’t saying they were the same

 

Budget...can you share the link to your post on the Fordbarn...

 

Oh man, that was years ago. I don’t recall my user name.

 

The hood and latch you have was fitted to 1941 6-cylinder pickups and late production 1941 V8 pickups. The 40/41 book on the early v8 club of America website has some info on this. I also have not been able to find much other info.

My 41 pickup has a serial number that is V8 and late 41 production. It has this hood and latch.

 

Finally recalled my user name. “MikeB”, but couldn’t find the post. Well, I think that was my user name

 

That is definitely my set up, the 6 cylinder or late 41 8 cylinder. I don't like the "splaying" occurrence on the 6 cylinder hood, and if they did splay why change all hoods to that design rather then the one that worked better?

I added the safety latch last night to the front of the grille. I had one that was plain and one that was chrome and finally found the chrome one in a box. You can see it in the pic above but I zoomed in a little. It has a little handle that protrudes from the grille to operate the catch.

Why in the world were there so many combinations? Seriously? This is bloody strange.

Other than the unfortunate "splaying" of the hood sides, it looks like mine will work with some adaptation to the filler panel (needs a new hole to catch the front cross bar). I may need to increase the height at the back against the radiator like @X38 mentioned earlier, if so I could get rid of that extra hole I don't need.

I think I know why hot rodders built their cars without hoods or fenders.

 

I can see mine splay a little when I latch it down (the latch is TIGHT). I was thinking to make a panel to go across to each hood side and connect it to the main latch plate....V8 hood style. Also I like the idea of the radiator air dam panel (it even has one in the picture for a 4 cyl). I'm going to add the safety latch also when I replace the handle and make an air dam. I did see someone on here I believe making a hood latch handle out of steel (machined not cast).

 

I do have one new in the bag safety latch, it is not chrome but some sort of zinc plating I think.

Good idea on the brace, I can see how the V8 hood latch goes further back and supports those billowy side panels. I might make an alteration to mine prior to powder coating my latch.

 

I'll send you a pm on the latch, I do need it and the bracket? (or at least a picture so I can make one), I don't have anything for the safety latch.

It's weird that the 4/6 cyl have the notches on the hood which seems to create a weak spot for cracking. Only thing I can think of would be clearance for the radiator?. This picture is from the above post @FritzFord , I'll have to check mine.

 

Yes! That is exactly like mine and was cracked a bit right there on both sides. So only 6 cylinder trucks had hoods with that notch? I am learning more with every post.

I'll measure mine tonight, I think the radiator is well within that width. Rigging up a brace that ties the sides to the latch assembly would go a long way in preventing cracking again.

 

4/6 and late '41 according to the book.

My radiator is angled in at the top so mine should clear fine and I need to make a air damn panel, maybe even a lower one also. My temp does slowly creep up when sitting in traffic on hot days.

 

I know this does not relate directly to you guys, but when I was figuring out the modified hood/grille/hood sides for my car, the radiator and internal clearances definitely came into play. That weak spot you've both identified is similar to what I was finding. Because I was building from scratch basically I was able to incorporate reinforcing in places I felt would be suspect. The radiator is a given, so everything else has to dance around it. And, as is usually the case, the easy part is making the outside look okay, it's the functional inside where the devil is in the details.

 

I'd suggest removing (for now) the cool polished panel you created, and bring the hood down into position, then from under the p/u look up, and measure where you need to have a brace/cross bar to accept the latching mechanism.
Once the brace/cross bar is created/positioned properly, then mimic your panels hole in the same position.