Hot Rods How many guys drive street brawlers?

You took the bait! Haha Sorry my friend!
The hot rod we built is likely the quickest and fastest normally aspirated, stock bodied Model A coupe on ‘32 rails around. If you know of a stock bodied 30’s car on ‘32 rails that doesn’t run a blower/nitrous/turbo… we’d like to know about it. I’ve made 30 passes in it, with the fastest being 8.52 at 155mph. It’s docile enough to drive on the street around town… but the 5500 converter would be the weak link on a drag and drive.

 

Also… David still holds the faster time in his car… with an 8.501.

 

Here’s video of my fastest pass…

 

It all becomes watered down doesn't it?

 

I agree with you that you misunderstood me. I literally typed “ It'll be traditional as you can get for a fast hot rod...” yet you read “all Nostalgic parts”

As far as many 275 drag radial guy running blah blah blah… I know. What I said is, I think we have the fastest stock bodied normally aspirated Model A on a stock style frame… period. I’ve been following drag racing for 40 years… Nostalgia racing since it began. I do not know of a quicker Model A at this time. Maybe it exists? If it does, post a pic. Or better yet, video.
Also, when I do start building my car… I’ll share it here on the HAMB. I did one of the first complete build series that chronicled every component on a car, on the HAMB… and a couple others. So it’ll be nice to get back in the groove. Look for a post “How to build an 8 second street brawler”

 

Just make sure it's loud enough to not hear the tool box rattle. Hahaha.

 

Hahaha!

 

I’m building mine to the Hot Rod Magazine Drag Week rules for the Hot Rod class. David’s car fits the rules… but we won’t participate with it. After having so much fun with his, I need to have my own and set my own goals for me. I will have to say I’m having Deja Vu here… is there a “20 years ago on the HAMB” button? The basic rules I am going by are:
Stock coupe or sedan body, may be chopped. No narrowing, sectioning or other goofy mods.
Engine not set back past the windshield
Stock or exact replica frame rails. No round tube chassis.
Solid front axle, no IFS or struts
Slicks ok.
No tread width wider than 11.25” Tires may not be shaved to meet 11.25
Engines must be based on pre-1968 designs with stock port configuration on heads
No EFI. Carb or mechanical injection only.
Intakes must be cast aluminum, no sheet metal intakes
No power adders (no blowers, turbos or nitrous)
No LENCO transmissions
No wings, air dams or spoilers.
And it’s gotta have lights, insurance, registration and for drag week drive 1000 miles and run a 1/4 mile each day for 5 days.

The last part is INSANE… but it’s my goal.

You can always bring what you build out to the Ducttape Drags. Super low key fun event. I’d love to see more fast coupes and sedans show up.

 

I am very excited to see your build, this is going to be great!

 

You're going to need a funny car type cage, aren't you? that makes it even more insane

Should be fun!

 

8 second car in hot rod class? That is crazy.

 

F-Burgers car is a bad mofo even with the "just to get the car dialed in" motor. Pretty sure Sam can build one for himself that is a bit quicker, he is pretty good at that sort of thing.

-Abone.

 

Engines must be based on pre-1968 designs with stock port configuration on heads.

Nice they killed any chance of a BBF from playing in the sandbox.

 

Keeps out the LS motors, too. Ford was making several big engines in the mid 60s, unfortunately they're not very cost effective today.

 

You could put together an SOHC and be competitive but your bank account would be empty

 

Ask Jay Brown about that

 

What is acceptable then? Why is mechanical injection disallowed, they were used in the 60s?

While I'm not suggesting letting in LS engines, the pre 68 design does seem to eliminate a lot of potential contenders unnecessarily. I'd say if a guy can modify some stock or aftermarket head and its streetable......then thats what racing is all about....innovation. Smokey would be proud. I could agree with limiting any engine to having only 2 valves per cylinder. The reason I point this out, is because there are engines that might compete if the builder could modify the heads. We all know that there has been more research done on Chevy heads than all other brands combined, so getting most any other brand to compete with them is going to require some serious head work..........especially with no blowers allowed. AND.......I say that while being a Chevy fan.

If you don't allow blowers, don't you pretty much eliminate any small motor ? Kinda seems to limit what even has a chance to be competitive.

Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of running old coupes and sedans that are street driveable is a good thing and would love to see it, but I think maybe the rules aren't as well thought out as they could be.

 

Perhaps the rules were thought out with a different set of priorities than you would have?

I would do it different too, but I don't run the show.

 

The 429-460 platform is certainly affordable. A 604 cid A-460 headed bbf shouldn’t cost much more than a comparable bbc. But, like you say it’s their sandbox and their rules.

 

Ford just took too long to figure out what Chevy figured out...big cubes, canted valves, but simple design.

 

That was my mistake... should read "No EFI, Carbs and Mechanical injection only"

 

Yes, it'll be a SFI 25.1 cage. The inner funny car bar bugs me... but I'll put it in the center, hopefully it doesn't knock me out. We'll see.

As for the rest of the cage... it'll be tucked out so far it won't look like it's there. I plan on making templates to the sheet metal, and then unbolting the body sides from the center to fab it up. I'm 6'11' 260lbs... and with a 4" chop, it'll be tight... but i'll build everything around me, not put me inside it.

Sam

 

I agree the Drag Week Rules are limiting... I for one would MUCH rather build a blower motor. Way more streetable than what I am doing. Also, they 1968 rule... The 429 was introduced in 1968, so it meets their '68 and earlier rule. Maybe they were trying to keep out the Cleavlands?

 

These ports will feed 582 cubic inches to 8,000rpm…

 

Does that make all FE blocks legal? Not sure why they say no IFS, as Chevy started using IFS on the corvette in 63. Please post up lots of pictures as you build your cage. I love the idea of a cage that doesn't present itself front and center of your interior. I like the safety a cage provides, but I don't like nothing but cage being seen when you look inside a street car.

 

Engines must be based on pre-1968 designs with stock port configuration on heads.

 

You thinking IRS maybe???

 

You can go on the Hot Rod Magazine Drag Week rules and regulations site for the listing of class rules and procedures.

 

Stroked 283 sbc!!!!!!

 

Unstable when you start dipping 9:50 & faster ,,, ( not my A)
When I tried to push my A ,All steel No chop , No jungle gym, stock boxed A frame , DD @ time to a 1/4 on 6inch wide of shelf Bridgestone, 29 tall
@ around 800 foot started moving around , So I was Happy sticking to 1/8
Track or Street 100-107 ,
My little Duce pretty much same set up
I switch between tries ,The Bridgestone
L60 & 315 upon which motor I have in the Deuce ,,, Im Ok with 5:80s- 6:40 with No jungle gym , Some time butterfly's
I should Jungle gym up!!!
Since Covid Not so much a DD