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1935-1936 Ford pickup tech for the masses

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Roothawg, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. Strodder
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    I have another question. I installed the fenders, radiator, and now the grill. I'm having trouble mounting it. Should I have installed the grill first?
     
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  2. Roothawg
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    No, some just fit better than others. I had a 35 grille I wrestled for days. My wife said "Why don't you just use the 36 grille hanging on the wall?" 10 minutes later, I was done.

    Start with the cab. Make sure you have the right wood in the right places. Mount the fenders.
    Mount the inner fenders next, then the grille. Leave everything loose so you can move it around.
     
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  3. Strodder
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    Yup, I did all that. I finally got it to fit. I made some brackets to secure the upper part of the grill. It’s solid now.
     

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  4. Roothawg
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    FE0C6AF1-414B-40A0-8177-332A524CC049.jpeg
    Just remember the original hood sides latched on radiator side pieces that stuck out.
    These are by no means the best looking ones, but I fabbed these up, because my Walker radiator arms were too short.
     
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  5. 1946caddy
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    Those are some serious brackets.
    The radiator is supposed to fit snug in the radiator shell and by doing so, it forces the incomeing air to go through the radiator. A schroud is often needed to pull the air through the radiator. Your radiator appears too small and will allow the air to go around the sides.
    Are you running a fan?
    I know it's a lot of money but the proper radiator would solve both mounting problem as well as the air flow.
    https://thebrassworks.net/products/1936-ford-truck-radiator
     
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  6. Strodder
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    I do have a fan installed, but on the outside because of no room for it in front of the engine.
     

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  7. manyolcars
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    this picture shows the door striker on my 1935 with removable door window frames. I am holding the 1935 to I think 1952 truck striker. I ordered 1934 truck striker plates at the same time and they match the one on my truck.
    I will try to get a picture of the serial number tomorrow. Its the craziest I have seen. star 3318 I42xxxx star. 18-142xxxx is a legitimate number for 1935 but 18 is passenger car and the transmission is a 4 spd with power take off, definitely truck. The truck is a model 51. Any idea what the 3318 is ? 35 striker.jpg
     
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  8. manyolcars
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    The Van Pelt info is not clear to me,

    From the Ford Service Bulletins there is a bulletin dated April 15, 1938 that refers to "Engine Numbers". The subject covers the use of the correct stamps when reconditioned cylinder assemblies are stamped by dealers. The bulletin goes on to say that the dealers should use the K.R. Wilson number A404B stamp set. The 1940 K.R. Wilson tool catalog shows the A404B stamp set of 11 stamps (numbers 0 thru 9 plus the "star"). The same catalog shows a new number A404 stamp set of three (just the 6 stamp, the 9 stamp, and the I stamp). The K.R. Wilson catalog states that "The design of engine numbers has been changed to lessen the possibility of outside individuals attempting to change engine numbers. The figures I-6-9 have been changed. Dealers should immediately provide themselves with the new figures - One-Six-Nine. See Ford Service Bulletin, Subject No. 6000 (Engine) Page 22."
    serial 35.jpg 35serial.jpg
    1935 used the new numbers? I have the capital letter I and straight back 6 and 9
     
  9. nobby
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    can anyone draw or trace a front bumper iron for a v bumper
    then draw a box around it with measurements - and mark the bolt holes
    distance from fender
    what is the thickness of the steel and depth
    thanks
     
  10. manyolcars
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    v bumper? the 36 passenger bumper?
     
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  11. nobby
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    yes,
    i have the bumper
    no idea on how far from fender and the shape
    and position
     
  12. Roothawg
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    Just use the pass car arms. Frames are all the same.
     
  13. daleeric
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    On my 1937 pickup it had the same early strike plate. I think Ford just used what they had. Spacing is different, so they do not interchange.
     
  14. manyolcars
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    The good guys on Fordbarn pointed out that its not 3318- but BB18- which is a January 1935 assembly. The cab is definitely 35, with the crease at the bottom of the A pillar but has removeable door window garnish and the 1934 truck door strikers.
     
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  15. manyolcars
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  16. manyolcars
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    tree.jpg Friday night was the worst storm I have been part of. My 35 got lucky when the wind blew the tree the other way.
     
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  17. Roothawg
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    Dang, that was close!
     
  18. ***Area-51***
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    Has anybody used a 33-34 pass car radiator in a 35 pickup?
    I was told this works...but???

    no response, I guess not...
     
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  19. manyolcars
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  21. ***Area-51***
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    ^^^^
    Have not seen that before, definitely worth a look
     
  22. hotrodsneverdie
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    I’m thinking I might have a “late” 35 pickup. I have the 35 cab, hood and grill, but the non-removable garnish moldings and the slits on the front fenders as opposed to the hole for the bumper brackets. Anybody else encounter this? It all appears to be original to the pickup.
     
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  23. finn
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    Hope I’m not hijacking too much, but is there a definitive dissertation with pictures on how to properly assemble and install the side windows on these things. I’m using the aftermarket window channels, and suspect I don’t have the glass centered properly, in the channel , or something.

    These trucks have the smoker’s window vent function that I can’t get my arms around… or maybe it’s my head…
     
  24. Roothawg
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    Ford was famous for using up everything from the previous model year until it was gone. You never know about the fenders. So many years that parts could have been swapped around. There is a post on this thread that covers the differences in the doors.
     
  25. Roothawg
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    It is very frustrating to try and center the glass in the channel. Mine is off by about 1/4", I used urethane to set my glass, so I live with it.
    Here are a few links to study.



    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/36-ford-pickup-door-glass-channel.1216816/



    https://www.35pickup.com/Window.html

    https://www.google.com/search?q=193...qMWoxNagCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1
     
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  26. hotrodsneverdie
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    I just purchased Lawson’s book through the early ford v8 club and look forward to reading it cover to cover. I just bought my 35 yesterday and definitely want to know more about them.
     
  27. hotrodsneverdie
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    I think I actually purchased the wrong book. I purchased a book by David Gunnarson and while I haven’t received it yet, it appears to deal with more of the big trucks. I can’t find Lawson’s book, but I have to imagine it’s been published by now?
     
  28. daleeric
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    Don't think Lawson ever published, He's on the Ford Barn.
     
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  29. daleeric
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    I believe all his research went to Don Rogers who is on Ford Barn as well
     
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  30. hotrodsneverdie
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    Is anybody still making rocker panels for these trucks? Everything I have found is out of stock…
     

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