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Event Coverage Bad Gas From Auto Dismantlers

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  1. Jalopy Joker
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    Just saw article online that a gas transport company was found to be purchasing gas from self-serve type auto Dismantlers in Southern California and sold it to gas stations throughout much of the State after treating it. Old gas can cause multiple problems with car engines. They have done this for many years.
     
  2. Onemansjunk
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    We now know where the gas was going. What's going on with all the other fluids???
     
  3. '34 Ratrod
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    I think that's where Maverick gets their gas..:eek:

    Larry
     
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  4. As the price of gas goes up the wise guys will figure out more gray market ways to make a buck.
     
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  5. Unkl Ian
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    Local company, the "Ebony Oil Company", used to steal used motor oil
    from oil change places and sell it to the big steel mills to power their furnaces.
    I saw it happen one night.
     
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  6. Jalopy Joker
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    If you can not get your car to perform right bad gas may be the problem
     
  7. Sky Six
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    They were doing it 50 years ago.
     
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  8. Crocodile
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    50 years ago, the gas would probably last long enough that it might not have been much of a problem. In high school (end of the 80's), the first thing I did when I bought a car for parts was to siphon the gas out into a white 5 gallon bucket, to see if it was clean enough and smelled good enough to put in my car. Nowadays, I worry about something that has been parked over winter!
     
  9. nrgwizard
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    Just how do you "treat" old rotted gas to useable again, at least in a car, not a lawnmower or as weedkiller?
    Gotta be *some* majik potion... :D .
    Marcus...
     
  10. Mr48chev
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    I don't believe that you can. I've got about 15 gallons of varnish out here that I would pawn off on someone though.

    Remembeing back before gas went bad fast a buddy of mine with a wrecking yard drained the tanks on rigs he hauled in minutes after he got them in the yard and a lot of that gas went in 55 gallon drums and powered his yard dog and other vehicles. I'm not sure that he ever used it in the wrecker or the daily driver but it got used.

    Had a company that bought all the waste oil out of our forklifts and other equipment that got oil changes at the plant for 10 cents a gallon and hauled it to Portland Oregon where it was sold for Bunker fuel. Safety clean sold our safety gal a bill of goods and we ended up paying them 1.00 a gallon to pick it up and "dispose" it. We had a 2000 gallon waste oil tank.
     
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  11. 49ratfink
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    you "treat" it by adding 500 gallons to a 10,000 gallon tank of new gas at the gas station
     
  12. Beanscoot
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    I like to eliminate the middle man...
     
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  13. Tow Truck Tom
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    And Then there are the stories of how during the war in Germany they developed a system of burning wood in a 'cooker' fitted to the car.
    They then captured and piped the methane fumes to the engine, and ran the cars on that.
    It was noxious funky and a weak fuel.
    At times they had to stop, stoke and let the fumes build up befotre continuing.
     
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  14. How much gas can you glean from junk cars to make it worth the effort? The handling alone is a hazard. When I was jerking junk cars, one yard let us go through the gas tank pile.

    We poured it into old spackle buckets and then into the tow truck gas tank. Of course it had to pass the sniff test. It was strained through a red grease rag and we carried a few plastic gas filters.
     
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  15. elgringo71
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    2994720A-8DBB-4148-A47F-8A829ED3AB98.jpeg 6C31856D-492A-4723-ADE4-A2BECF7A7B9D.jpeg
     
  16. SS327
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    The gassifier systems. But that was all the people had to run their cars on at the time.
     
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  17. Jalopy Joker
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    origin of information is the DTSC / Department of Toxic Substances Control. there are news agencies that have revealed more detailed information. as stated by others, auto dismantlers have to remove/store gas from vehicles when brought into yard. subject is one fuel transport company, reselling thousands of gallons of recovered fuel. how the yards that follow regulations dispose of fuel, oils, etc I don't know. recovered fuel for the most part is from vehicles that have not sat for very long.
     
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  18. 5window
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    Link doesn't work
     
  19. Moriarity
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  20. Airborne34
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    Been going on for many years. I used to work at a salvage yard in the mid 1980's. Fuel was always salvaged and sold. Was primarily the landscapers who bought it.
     
  21. That old gas can be some really nasty shit.
    I accidentally got a mouthful when I siphoned some out of a fuel tank. I couldn’t get the taste out of my mouth for most of the day.
     
  22. rusty valley
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    I used to get the "used" gas from a boat repair place here. Their insurance co. required the tanks to be empty if inside the building. It was a 55 gal drum of who knows, some new, some 2cycle, some old, and maybe even lots of water from one that sunk. I would first check it for water, then move it into my 55 drum that had a filter on it, and add some new gas as I used it up. I would not run it in any of my newish cars with fuel injection, but the stock A's and T's ran just fine on the stuff. For many years I ran that stuff all summer, but sadly the place got sold and the new owner chooses to pay to have it hauled off to who knows where.
     
  23. G-son
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    That's a nice couple if images from the war years in Sweden. The A on the first license plate says that car is registered in the capital Stockholm, and the M belongs to the county furthest south, including the 3rd largest city Malmö.
    Gengas as it's called here (short for generator gas) seems to have worked well enough during the war, but it absolutely has some downsides. Breathing it causes carbon monoxide poisoning, for example.
     
  24. Sky Six
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    At some self serve yards, before you put the car on the line you pull stuff like gas tanks. When pulled, the worker pours the gas out of the tank into a large storage tank. You would be surprised how much gas you can get in a workday.
     
  25. SS327
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    I have bad gas. Atleast that’s what my co-workers say. :oops:
     
  26. Unkl Ian
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    Bert Monroe, according to the book "World's Fastest Indian, used to run "wood gas".
    Don't remember if it was a car, or bike.
    Probably during the war.
     
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  27. rusty valley
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    Wood gas, or gasifiers are still a going thing. search it on youtube theres quite a bit of experiments going on
     
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  28. Gas Grass or Ass, Nobody rides for free!:D
     
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  29. Moriarity
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    I worked at a salvage yard part time back in the 80's and 90's. When cars were prepped for crushing, the tanks were pulled out and drained. the car crusher had a 460 ford engine on it and there was a gas powered forklift for use in the yard and at least one yard car or truck. That gas ran fine in all of that stuff for as long as I worked there. I think it was 1989 or so that the boss bought a new 2WD suburban and his wife kept track of fuel milage and everything on that vehicle. Me and another guy there thought it would be funny to add a little gas to the sub every once in a while, never enough to move the gauge. We were probably pouring in 4- or 5 gallons of junkyard gas in it per week. She was getting gas milage in the 30 mpg gallon range and was getting ready to write a letter to Gm raving about the car when we finally fessed up....
     
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