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Customs Customs gone wrong

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by snoc653, Feb 25, 2024.

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  1. mustangsix
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    I think if that 57 was chopped a few inches it would come back into proportion. It's really cool, just a bit too tall.
     
  2. jimmy six
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    WARING..WARNING..WARNING….Centerlines….DELETE..DELETE..DELETE.
     
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  3. DDDenny
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    You can unbolt the Centerline wheels easy enough but as they say...........
    "You can't fix UGLY"!
    It's like painting your car lime green, may have been a good idea at first but do you want to see it every time you drive it.
    Hope that doesn't hurt anyones' feelings.
    Did @Moriarity lose his internet or something?

     
  4. Have you seen "Bad Chad's" works of art?
     
  5. texasred
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  7. Moriarity
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    In all fairness and I know that different words (custom) mean different things to different people. especially these days. But in my mind these shortened cars are not really customs in the purest (traditional) sense of the word. Customs historically were nosed and decked, had frenched lights , different grilles , shaved or changed side trim and or chopped tops or body sectioning. these shortened 4 doors into 2 doors are just someone that didn't want to ride around in a 4 door, some were better than others but typically other than shortening most of them are otherwise stock looking as far as trim, bumpers etc. Again that is just how I look at it
     
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  9. spanners
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    " Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder".
     
  10. Ok, I think I could live with this one. It's kinda cool.
     
  11. nrgwizard
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    Well, the shorties *are* sectioned... ;( . There's been more than one cartoon about that since the late 60's. :D .
    I find most odd, but I don't own them, so ok by me... :) . Actually tried sketching them out ~'70 to see if proportions could be had, not by me. & darn sure beyond my abilities back then, today too, probably. Surely beyond todays' wants.

    DDDD: I like Lime, esp LimeGold Roth-style. & yes, my dd is lime(just not bright enough) that I like to see everyday. :D . Lime n Gold? Lemon/Lime? Not yes, HELL YES! :D . Btw, your taste may vary... (I probably have none) :D .

    Customs, well, that's a loaded Q: Frank Marietta(sp?) Mystery is, to me, one hideous piece of machinery, started out as a '39 convert sedan(? iirc ? Convertible ford or merc at that.) Thinking it was pink too - if *that* matters... :D . Read the workmanship was good. Another one was the forward-curved w/s custom(fiberglass body? Think it was found just recently) by the priest. Horrid styling - to my eyes. A pint of new Tabasco wouldn't remove the hurt from *my* eyes. IDK, ya'll might love them... Since I don't post pics, & couldn't lay my fingers on these anyway, some other kind
    soul will get to post 'em-up.

    Seem proportion(s) & flow are the main problems, color(s) & texture are the others. Guess that's my hang-up... :D . To me, customs are just getting what the factory couldn't/wouldn't provide body/interior-wise.
    Marcus...
     
  12. DDDenny
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    I just pulled a color out of my @ss, figured no matter what, someone will get butt hurt.
    Should have used "chartreuse" I guess!
     
  13. Ned Ludd
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    I'm sure shortened cars can be done well, even if I don't care enough to figure out what the key to that would be. But they aren't part of the custom conversation. They don't answer what had gone before.

    Sometimes a duck is a duck because it looks, walks, quacks, etc. like a duck.
    Sometimes a duck is a duck because it hatched out of a duck egg.

    Sometimes a thing is what it is because it has all the essential features of that thing. It fits the dictionary definition of the thing. This applies to stuff like chemicals. Vanillin is always C8H8O3, regardless of whether it came out of a vanilla pod or a lab.

    Sometimes a thing is what it is because it came out of a history, a discourse, an ongoing dialectic of people answering one another. This is generally true of cultural phenomena like musical genres. It isn't the Blues unless the music speaks to the history —i.e. the tradition— of the Blues.

    Hot rods and customs fall into the latter category.

    Tradition isn't a prison; it's a conversation.
     
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  14. Famous Australian quote about this..."Yeah, Nahh"
     
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  15. poco
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    The trouble with most chopped cars is that they dont know when to stop and they chop them to much. My opinion only
     
  16. lostn51
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    Hey my ‘50 convertible came factory Chartreuse LOL!! :D
     
  17. T. Turtle
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    My original comment was deemed inappropriate on account of the fact the car I used (a certain Chrysler Imperial "speedster") has big wheels, but the point was about the proportions. To me some of those cars (clown, or shortened wheelbase) cars would work if the builder would have lengthened the wheelbase so that the rear overhang was shorter, I may ask the photoshop wizards to modify one to exemplify what I mean...
     
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  18. nrgwizard
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    DDD;
    Butthurt... ??? BWhahhahahahaha.... No, I was LMAO. Thought it was funny. Although iffen you're pulling colors outta your ass... well, no, I actually don't want to know... :D .
    Marcus...
     
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  19. Ned Ludd
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    I was trying to get to something like that here: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/why-so-low.1310473/page-6#post-15142053

    My theory is that the chopped custom came out of efforts to get a car proportioned like a bigger, expensive, coachbuilt car. Judging the amount of chop finely is important for that.

    Then what happens is that the chopped custom becomes a thing in its own right, and subsequent builders try to emulate not the upmarket bespoke body but other chopped customs. Then "if some is good, more is better" kicks in.

    It's probably just an inherent feature of the kind of cultural processes at work, but it's always useful to step out of the conversation every so often to get a bit of perspective before diving back in.
     
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  20. Budget36
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    As far as the cut tri-5 4 doors, I’ve only seen them (just a few in person) but set up with a rake and an attitude to race.
    I dug the shit out of them. Still do.
    To me the issue with the wagon first pictured, it looks like “I want a shortened stock ‘57 Chevy wagon”.
    That I don’t particularly care for.
     
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  21. I’d drive this one
    IMG_5440.jpeg
    amd the 57 wagon

    with a big ole cheesy grin

    the proportion of the smile generated is the most important :)
     
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  22. Ned Ludd
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    I saw that on another forum. My first thought was Spohn, but apparently they never came near the car. Perhaps the owner was going for that had-it-specially-built-while-posted-in-Germany look.
    That actually works. I told @Moriarity above that I didn't care enough to figure out the key, but longer doors might have something to do with it.
     
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  24. T. Turtle
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    Sorry, but to me it makes it look like an early 50s 2-door Austin (A40, A70, A90, take your pick) or a 2 door Standard Vanguard. The British can be excused because - although wanting to appeal to the US market - they were cursed with their short wheelbase platforms and high chassis made for the colonies. But in an American car? No, no and no.
    Austin-A90-Atlantic-1952.jpg
     
  25. lostn51
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    My buddy in high school had several ’55 Chevrolets and one of them was a shorty wagon that was pretty nice. He drove a 210 daily and had a Nomad so this was a parts car that he had and decided what the heck…..

    After seeing this thread I have a severely OT Caddy Seville that has the Art Deco styling sitting in the backyard that I was going to sell to a pimp or a local pharmaceutical sails rep but now I’m thinking about cutting it up for a shorty. Heck if I screw it up I didn’t loose anything, plus it would make it easier to get rid of it in pieces:rolleyes: If someone who is a photoshop guru PMs me I can get you a pic of it and you can give me an idea of what it would look like. Moriarity has seen the car and thought it was pretty hilarious with 670/15 wide whites on it, might as well finish it off :D:D
     
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  26. DDDenny
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  27. ekimneirbo
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    My guess is that the parents finally whisked the kids off to college in the back seat of the wagon, and upon returning home wanted to be sure there was no room for the kids to ever return..........:p

    I have mixed emotions about the shorties. I'm glad they exist and I think the "out of proportion" result is what makes them kinda neat. I think the one in the pic below is pretty neat. Kind-of a "bobber" in later model sheetmetal. (Mr Chevrolet post)

    elkyShorty.jpg


    So you like the "earthtones" huh? :p
     
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  28. ekimneirbo
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    My favorite though has to be "Stubby Bob" from Roadkill

    Stubby-Bob-wheelstand.jpg
     
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  29. DDDenny
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    Never heard of them, are they a R&B band?:oops:
     
  30. ekimneirbo
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    Not that I know of, but if you are getting bright red or other vivid colors, ya might wanna worry a little. :eek:
     
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