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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. 41 GMC K-18
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    Bravo young dogged and determined, fabricator on the Terrace.
    This is the symbol of the master of controlled melted metal !

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    Applause needed....
    "we don't need no stinking dual master cylinder"
    just a functional E brake.....that's why they were called 'Emergency Brakes" and they are parking brakes now
    Looking good Joey ....real good!
    Carry on......
     
  3. Six Ball
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    So were you able to weld? Let's see 'em.
    I could write a book about welding here on a solar powered 24v battery bank through a 40 amp inverter. But I won't. :rolleyes:
     
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    No successful welds were made I ended up bolting the master-cylinder in place; we’ll weld it up when I’m back at David’s.
     
  5. You could always gas weld if you ever needed to weld.
     
  6. I was thinking the same thing. Gas welding would really fit the vibe of this car as well.
     
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  7. 1-SHOT
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    With practice you can make gas welding look as good as TIG . I bought my first Ox/Act. Rig when I was 12 years old. They were Victor and I still use them. That’s 70 years ago. I have a small set of Smith Torches and I have 000 tips for each when you weld some thing small and thin.
     
  8. And gas welding is very traditional, and no fuses to blow! I really like old fabric airplanes with their gas welded frames. The guys who built those really knew how to gas weld!
     
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  9. J.Ukrop
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    I’ll have replies up soon, but just wanted to check in to report that I’ve been spending a whole lot of time in the garage, and also driving my roadster as much as I can.
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    Big city roadsters
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    Big roadster progress. More later!
     
  10. trevorsworth
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    I need all my friends to put their projects on hold for a bit so I don't feel so bad about slacking on my stuff.......

    Just kidding, keep it burning at both ends!!
     
  11. Duster418
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    Awesome project, and nice write up
     
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  12. Six Ball
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    Friends? Maybe I should try some of those?
     
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    So good Joey!
     
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  14. J.Ukrop
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    I love the gas welding idea, but I don't think my little garage would play too well to that either at this point. That said, I do enjoy the process. Longtime readers will recall my foray into gas welding at City College of San Francisco.
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  15. J.Ukrop
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    We need you to come to San Francisco to help me get this thing finished!

    Thank you! It's been fun to write about, and even more fun to build (most of the time!)

    Hey, you're in the club!

    Thank ya! We're building speed!
     
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  16. J.Ukrop
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    As I mentioned before, I'll be sharing more about our latest Barnstormers CC-MC-DC escapade in this week's Jalopy Journal column. I have a few minutes before bed here, so it's time for a looooong overdue thread update. Where were we?
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    The sun has been out lately, so I took that opportunity to do some painting. For the torque tube and radius rods, I used ultra-traditional appliance paint. Good enough for a refrigerator, good enough for the bottom of this car. Havenscourt 2 Gasser.jpg
    Before I bought these from Donny, he had set them up for the Havenscourt truck. As you can tell by the picture, they were destined to be painted white.
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    On Sunday morning, I made my way over to the local hardware store and did something somewhat uncharacteristic: I bought a new tool. Knowing I had to get the driveshaft pin in place, I splurged on the right ball-peen hammer, pictured on the right. Here's a photo midway through the pin flattening process. Note the traditional terra firma workbench.
     
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    After an overnight bath in the Chem-Dip, the speedometer gear got some love. Assembling the torque tube/gaskets/roller bearing/seal/snap ring was a messy process, so no photos were taken. That, however, reminds me. I ended up making my own tools to handle the seal and sleeve installation.
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    Per my brother's advice, the PVC pipe worked perfectly for the seal. Thank you everyone for the guidance on what direction to make it face. I used a dab of grease to make it stick to the PVC on its way down.
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    And the other one was spot-on for the sleeve. I spent a total of $15 at Lowes on the pieces. If anyone local wants to do the same, I have about 9.90 feet of extra pipe that you can come pick up. Let me know!

    With the torque tube assembled, I went back to the workbench to clean up the radius rod/backing plate hardware using my era-correct tap and die set.
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    The process is oh-so-satisfying and worked better than expected.
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  18. J.Ukrop
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    By the end of the night on Sunday, I decided it was time to put it all together. And when the car plopped down on the garage floor on all four wheels again, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't extremely excited.
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    So many feelings here. To see the axles, the shocks, the wishbones, radius rods, drums, backing plates, headlight bar—everything—all together in one place was hard to describe. As the sun set over San Francisco, I kept thinking back to the quote from motorcycle builder Andy Carter:

    "It's simple to make something difficult, but it's difficult to make something simple."

    The chassis looks simple. And to many people, it is. But for those who have been here for the past 123 pages, you know what it’s taken to get to this point. IMG_1927.jpg
    The lighting was less than ideal. Once the engine and trans are back in, I'll do a full-fledged shoot. Don't worry. IMG_1931.jpg
     
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    One more, just because. Right now, the frame of 2.0 sits five inches lower than 1.5's. Have I mentioned that I love these cars?
     
  20. ZerroHalfcup
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    You're doing a killer job on that frame and have a lot to be proud of. Keep it up, you'll be ripping it down the streets before too long.
     
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  21. 41 GMC K-18
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    Hey @J.Ukrop
    Impressive progress indeed!
    When I zoomed in to look at this particular photo, with a bit of imagination, you can see that the combination of the headlights in relation to the painted straight axle, 2.0 definitely has a smile on its face!
    A very well deserved smile, I might add!
    Thanks from Dennis.
     
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  22. Tim
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    Looking good man, what color will the rails be?
     
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  23. Six Ball
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    Well done kid! You have come a long way.
     
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  24. Jeff34
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    Looks great Joey!
     
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  25. Mikko_
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    Awesome, I absolutely love that last pic.
     
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  26. Love the progress Joey!! Everything is coming together so well. Thanks for sharing your journey!!

    Are you still heading to the Pasadena Reliability Run this weekend? I’m in Illinois visiting my parents and family so I won’t be able to make it.
     
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  27. J.Ukrop
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    Thank you! It really is getting there. The "to-do" list is long, but it's never been shorter. Keep up the great work on your build too. I've been loving your thread.

    Thanks, Dennis. A lot to smile about at this stage of the game.

    Thanks, Tim. The rails will be body color on the outside and then Eastwood Chassis Black on the inside.

    Thank ya. We all have!

    Thanks Jeff. Hoping to make it back up to Petaluma soon. The swap is right around the corner!

    I think it'll be one of those pictures I'll look back on and say, "Remember when?"

    Thanks, Brian. Right back atchya. I'm still planning to be there. We'll miss you this time around, but hopefully we can both have our cars there next year.
     
  28. J.Ukrop
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    So, what's next? Right now, the radiator and grille shell are back in position. I'm going to be bending up my brake lines and getting my emergency brake all hooked up. When those steps are finished, it'll be time to drop in the engine and...install the body.

    In the meantime, I'm about to pull the trigger on a gas tank. I'm liking everything about this one. I plan to add an external filler cap in the panel between the tack strip and the decklid.
     
  29. Tim
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    I think that’s called a tulip panel or referred to as the catwalk sometimes? Sounds like a good plan :)
     
  30. RodStRace
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    Run the fuel line and exhaust if possible before the body drop.
    The fewer things you have to do laying under it, the better.
    I'd even suggest firing it up before swapping the body. There's always something that needs a little fiddling to make right. Get a chunk of plywood to fill in as the floor and firewall so you can try out the clutch and brakes.Get it as close to a fully sorted running chassis as possible before tearing version 1.5 apart.
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