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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 33Doll, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. I hate oil drips too, nice mods!
     
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  2. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    IMG_2165.jpeg IMG_2174.jpeg IMG_2175.jpeg IMG_2176.jpeg IMG_2177.jpeg IMG_2178.jpeg IMG_2167.jpeg IMG_2168.jpeg IMG_2150.jpeg IMG_2158.jpeg IMG_2159.jpeg I took apart the clutch and the pressure plate and everything and reseated the springs and shims.

    Sanded it with the jitterbug, and the flywheel, cleaned it all up with degreaser and lacquer thinner, sanded the clutch disc a little bit
    That oil leak from the lower shaft was getting oil on everything so I think it created some hotspots. And I measured across the pressure plate and it is even.
    See if I can’t get it bolted in at least tonight.
     
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  3. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    Well, I got a lot done today!!
    Rebuilt the tranny painted it, resurfaced the flywheel, rebuilt pressure plate.
    And installed the tranny.
    so I just need to wrap it up on Sunday!!
    IMG_2179.jpeg IMG_2180.jpeg
     
  4. Outback
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    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    Good work!
     
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  5. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    ……Clutch still chatters! STILL pops out second….and had to use a different throw out bearing!
    I give up! I’m just gonna drive it till blows up and then put a 302 and a C4!!
     
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  6. Woogeroo
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
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    Woogeroo
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    from USA

    Take a breath, take a break... then go ask the guys on the fordbarn.com

    -Woog
     
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  7. Ford blue blood
    Joined: Jan 4, 2009
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    Know how you feel! My old hot rod has 140K on it. It shakes, rattles and rolls, is in need of a complete rebuild but I have decided to drive it until the wheels fall off! Would still drive it cross country if needed.....
     
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  8. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    IMG_2172.jpeg IMG_2168.jpeg IMG_2167.jpeg The chatter is so bad now the dash door latch fell out, and flew open!
    I ordered a whole new clutch kit.
    And I am gonna have the new flywheel re-ground just for shits and grins. Since it has a few hot spots.
    Although I think it’s the pressure plate.
    The pressure plate had fixed fingers,
    But had 3 thin shims that fell out when I took it apart, so I just assumed 1 went on each one… but I was wrong, I think they all went on the finger that was low, because I saw through the grease window the bearing was wobbly a bit. When I rowed through the gears on the Jack stands. Then when I went for a ride my teeth almost fell out!
    So that’s why I just ordered a whole new everything! The wife says thats it for the money pit! So pray for me that this is the cure!!
    SOOOO.frustrating!!!!
     
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  9. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    IMG_2215.jpeg IMG_2216.jpeg IMG_2217.jpeg IMG_2224.jpeg IMG_2220.jpeg IMG_2218.jpeg IMG_2219.jpeg I think I am getting somewhere!
    Look at the quality difference in the 2 pressure plates. I still have no idea what countries they were made in!
    All I know is. The new one is 10 times better. Still gonna have the flywheel ground once it is back apart!
     
  10. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    IMG_2246.jpeg IMG_2247.jpeg IMG_2248.jpeg IMG_2249.jpeg IMG_2250.jpeg So….
    Found the problem
    These 5 pictures are the old pressure plate.
    Look at the measurements

    The hot spots are definitely on the lowest point.
     
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  11. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    IMG_2242.jpeg IMG_2243.jpeg IMG_2244.jpeg Here is the new pressure plate.
    Even at all 3 points. About 5/32
    Now, whether to machine the flywheel or not? Gotta find a decent shop.
     
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  12. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    IMG_2261.jpeg IMG_2262.jpeg IMG_2263.jpeg IMG_2264.jpeg IMG_2265.jpeg Further investigation!
    The old pressure plate is a piece of Shit!
    everything about the new one is better.
    Beefier arms, swedged pins, crisper stamp lines, clutch disc also, bigger springs, thicker!
    Who knew there were such differences in overseas stamping.
    What do you?? Have every vendor send pictures first? I doubt they would do that.
     
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  13. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    I think the flywheel is fine.
    Cleaned
    It up again
    That pressure plate was over a 1/8 off in places.
    I put machine ruler across and the flywheel is flat.
    Plus, it looks like a good quality looking at it IMG_2268.jpeg
     
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  14. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    A little more done this weekend
    Clutch is firmer, and smoother all the way through its full stroke. Cant wait to try it.
    IMG_2295.jpeg IMG_2297.jpeg IMG_2294.jpeg IMG_2298.jpeg
     
  15. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    Drove to work this morning. Clutch is smooth!!!

    but always Something!!!! Damn water pump pulley lost the back half! So… I improvised!
    IMG_2334.jpeg IMG_2335.jpeg IMG_2340.jpeg IMG_2341.jpeg IMG_2342.jpeg
     
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  16. Tim
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    That’ll work!
     
  17. Woogeroo
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    Woogeroo
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    from USA

    Old Ford parts... :p
     
  18. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    By gully that darn trick works good!
    I would even leave it if the stupid transmission didn’t start acting up again!!!
    Clutch smooth now the transmissions is doing weird things!!!
    IC a 302 and a C4 in my future!
     
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  19. Jeff34
    Joined: Jun 2, 2015
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    You’ll get there. Patience. The flatty is worth it. Where did you source your pressure plate and clutch plate? Mine look the same and I need to replace them. 10”?
     
  20. 33Doll
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    33Doll

  21. wheeltramp brian
    Joined: Jun 11, 2010
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    Man, I've had bad luck with clutch chatter. I've gone through a few parts stores ones and they all chattered. And finally went with one from fort Wayne clutch on a customer's car and it was super smooth. Only problem is it's pretty costly.
     
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  22. Outback
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    Are you guys running the 'anti-chatter' rods?
     
  23. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    Not me. Had to Google that one.
    Some weird Threaded Rod Things??
     
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  24. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    It’s hot and miss with all these over seas parts, and different Hotrod internet vendors.
    Nobody knows where anything comes from anymore.
     
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  25. The anti-chatter rods connect the engine/transmission to the frame and prevent the motor from moving when you press in the clutch pedal. Without them the engine/trans will rock forward and aft when pushing on the pedal. They were really designed to prevent the engine from being shoved forward by the rear axle and torque tube, and to transfer this energy directly to the frame via the crossmember instead of by the flexible motor mounts. Good thread on them here: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238068
     
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  26. Johnboy34
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    They can be added by just removing the transmission cover.
     
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  27. Outback
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    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    Without them you can loose clutch travel & pressure on the clutch.
     
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  28. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    Mine has been converted to “Open” Drive.
    So the yoke slips in and out. And I made a solid tranny mount. It really can’t go anywhere.
    Plus I boxed the frame where the split rear bones attach.
     
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  29. 33Doll
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    33Doll

    IMG_2409.jpeg IMG_2150.jpeg
     
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  30. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    IMG_2696.jpeg IMG_2697.jpeg IMG_2698.jpeg IMG_2695.jpeg
    Got the Doll all… “Dolled” up! Ha!
    And popped the hood to Show off the Flatty !
    Going to a local car show tomorrow since it’s only 2 miles away!
    Clutch is smooth now, but the tranny is having issues again. I think the syncro assembly might’ve come apart, maybe The spring popped out on one of the Detents it Catches once in a while and rubs on first gear in neutral. I feel resistance now when I hold it in second.
    I’m going to sell some parts and then work on it this winter so I’ll just drive it to some real close shows since the clutch works fine now.
     
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