Technical Anyone know who ground PAW Super Stock Industries Camshafts?

If so, anyone know who ground them? I think they were in the PAW catalog but I don't have one anymore.

 

I remember them and PAW sold them, but that’s as much as I know. I’ll be watching this one !

 

probably General Kinetics

 

Thanks for the reply. There must be more to your reasoning, no? I thought maybe Isky ground them. Trying to recall memory on General Kinetics. Weren't they were pretty much cutting edge on development back in the late 70's early 80's ?

 

Found a couple references to Elgin being the the cam grinder for PAW SS cams , posts said part numbers were similar

 

Ya, I found the same. Some guy on the FE Forum in '06 said they were ground by Milodon? From what I've read the web people have had good luck with them in the past.

I just bought one I think might be pretty good in a little Street Blown 331 SBC and because he made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

 

I have an SSI cam in my 51'. Been a good cam. About 25 years old already

 

I sent the eBay vendor that still sells a few PAW parts a message to see if he knows who ground the SSI cams. Elgin Grinding used to be next door to my favorite automotive machine shop in Redwood City. Elgin moved to Santa Rosa and is still grinding custom cams.

 

Dema Elgin

 

Yes sir. Dimitri "Dema" Elgin. His web site has some very insightful camshaft information. For example, you will hear some say rod ratio does not matter much. He explains how it affects the intake air flow and improves volumetric efficiency. Smokey knew it too.

 

I'm thinking that I got their catalogs for a while in the 80's because I ordered a ring, rods Mains and gaskets kit from them for an engine I was freshening up.

 

For those interested, I received a reply from this gentleman. Here is his reply;

"There was not one manufacturer because of the number of grinds and engines
there were sourced from almost all of the major cam grinders".

 

I new him well,haven't talk to him much.When he was next to tech craft and later next to railroad tracks in RWC. Now in Santa Rosa,I still call him when I have questions.He taught classes @ De Anza.

 

He seems like one smart man with a ton of knowledge, experience and history going way back.

I never spoke to him or anyone at Elgins at the time but, I think they may have ground some crankshafts for me. I lived about 3 blocks from Techcraft in the early '90's. They did all my race engine stuff back then. Ted Yashimiro and Chris (forgot last name) ran the place and their guys did top notch work. I remember lot's of cool stuff lying around in the que. Everything from V12 Ferrari engines to Sprint car stuff and everything in between.

 

I read somewhere that General Kinetics cams were ground by Wolverine camshafts, they may have done cams for others.

 

Could it have been the other way around? Well, I guess it's all water under the bridge now.

 

I was shop foreman @ Peninsula Mazda in RWC,Chris was a friend of mine and built some sprintcar motors after him and Ted splint.I worked on a lot of sprint cars @ the San Jose fairgrounds,Baylands and Petaluma.

 

I ordered some bearings for a 351 Ford around 1981. The bearings showed up LOOSE in the box, they were rattling around. Aside from some minor nicks, they were fine.

 

Finally got around to unboxing the cam. The only markings are "7197" Heat lot, Batch number, Date code? Who knows. p/n 10312. nothing spectacular, just a little hydraulic sbc street cam . Paper work was printed in 1993.

224/234 @ .050"
I =.465"
E = .488"
LSA 114

 

Sounds like a good street cam! A bit more exhaust to make up for pipes and mufflers.

I'd guess that PAW had connections in a lot of different direct manufacturers. It makes sense that if they were 'white boxing' their own parts from all over for darn near every engine out there (those catalogs were nuts!) that one place would do early Olds and another would do mild SBC, while another might supply rowdy BBC. Or if one place was busy, another would be called on. Good way to clear slower moving inventory for the grinders, too.
While someone in the industry back then might be able to pick out details to ID it's source, I'd trust it, probably more than current stuff.

 

I think it might be good. The extra 10 deg. and lift on the exhaust along with the 114 LSA are the numbers I wanted to go along with the small bore 6-71. Yes they had everything in that catalog. I spent hours looking through them back then, but was skeptical of them and never bought anything. Funny cause like you say they were probably better than what we have today.

 

It's threads like this that make this forum so enjoyable to belong to.
Great information on interesting topics.
Doesn't get any better.
As for Tom's cam, those specs are not too far from a 'vette cam (L46/L82). As Rod said, a little extra on the exhaust side to make up for restrictions.
Should have pretty good driveability and only the slightest of burble's @ idle, but put your foot into it while you're driving down the road and hang on!....fun little prank to pull on your friends.

 

I put one of their cam and lifter sets in my son's Barracuda. That was at least 20 plus years ago and it still works great.