Do you have anti chatter rods on it? also @CTaulbert just turned did a cool head light trick swapping to an led h4 bulb but swapped the old glass lense onto the new light. His thread on his 57’ chevy is around here somewhere.
Here it is I believe he covered the lights in there https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/57-hardtop-survivor-build-thread.1318677/
Man thank you for that link!! I do not have chatter rods in my car, I kind of feel this issue is gonna be either Pilot or input shaft bearing but now i am almost leaning to some sort of wear from the fork in the actual shifter it self. If i move the shifter forward ever so slightly in the neutral still the noise and or chatter go away. After talking to a few folks on Fordbarn and looking at old posts i found this, which is super helpful for my ignorant brain. " When the clutch is engaged, the whole input assembly is turning the same speed as the engine crankshaft. When the transmission is in neutral and clutch is engaged, the input and the cluster gear continue to turn right along with the engine so any bearings involved there can make noise if there is a problem. When the clutch is disengaged and held that way, the throw out bearing and the pilot bearing are the only things turning along with the engine. Both quit turning right away when the clutch is re-engaged. If this is all happening while the transmission is in neutral and the clutch is still engaged then it could be the main input bearing or the internal bearing between the input and the main shaft. Folks have been having problems with that roller that fits inside the main input shaft. The rollers on the cluster could also have a problem. Some of these caged rollers have been suspect as well but the longer ones don't seem to fail as easy as the short ones. Some counter shaft clusters use the free rollers and they don't seem to be problematic." S
So if what I am reading above is correct then my pilot is most likely fine cause i should be feeling that chatter through the gears as well. or really anytime the clutch is engaged. If I luck out and only need to swap shifters for this test and not have to pull the motor back out ill be pretty happy guy. Either way ill update here in case anyone else runs into this problem in the future.
So clutch out, gearbox in neutral, yeah? If the vibration changes when you move the gear stick fwd/backwards then the selector is the first place I'd look, the spigot bearing is spinning at the same speed as the input shaft, so can't effect anything, the throw out bearing is not being used, but the input & lay shaft's in the gearbox are spinning, not the output shaft. I hope that makes sense, look for wear in the shifter & selectors. Also be careful not to tight fan belt too tight, it can load up the bearings/bushes & cause premature wear on those components
Yeah I talked to buddy that was having the same issue described and he told me he switch trans/shifter tops and the issue went away. So f it’s that easy I’ll be really happy. I have an extra 39 I’ll give it a go this weekend. On the belt tightening I hope I didn’t over tighten mine cause I needed to take as much slack out as I could to not allow that belt to rub. Any idea to measure or know if I’m too tight?
Over tight for a short term will be fine, but you may need to consider spacing the engine up something. How much deflection is on the belt
Been really having a lot of fun in the car. Had a friend’s going away party at Continental Club last weekend. Was great meeting everyone out and have the cars out.
With the smaller issues taken care of like radiator hoses and brake adjustments, I was thinking in following in @Aaron D. footsteps and adding a PCV to this 8ba. He has a very good little video up that he put together a few years ago. I bought the Napa parts needed and ran her around a little. I think my motor has too much blow by to keep up. It is odd though cause with the downdraft tube I hardly notice the smoke but when I installed the PCV smoke was obviously coming out of the oil fill tube. But maybe I installed it wrong? I’ll add some photos to give y’all a look. I cut a hole in a freeze plug and popped it in the downdraft tubes hole on the intake then added a grommet and the PCV. Then ran a hose to the intake hole under the carb. The bigger one that I assume was maybe a wiper vacuum line? Anyways with no other place for that smoke to go it came up and out of the oil fill tube.
Been planning on matching the fake patina, really just a poor mans paint job on the roadster. As it sits now I have the cowl and doors in paint, but I wanted to finish the rest of the car. Also describe the method i used in case someone wants to put some paint on their car on the cheap. Photo below to show the two tone I have going with grey primer on the quarters and deck lid.
Not rocket science here at all. Most folks like to use real rust in with their Patina jobs with vinegar and so on. I didn't want to do this because the car is totally assembled and its a pain honestly to go through all that to create the rust then kill it and then paint and or whatever. You can see what I started with and taking all the taillights out and wood kit out. I used rustoleum brown (base color) spirit stain (with a rag) for the top color, a little big of green in a few spots to create a little different color and then buffer to clean up, and gibs or Galmet to lock it in. Photo attached with all products I used. So I used flat rustoleum as the base layer, then I add black spirit stain over top via a rag and put it on thick. I let it dry for about 4 to 5 mins and then rub it back to smooth. Then I let it dry over night.
As you can see in the photo the stain will create a bit of a streaky brushed on look, which some folks might want and you can just stop here if so. I wanted to blend the brown and black more to create an aged brown look for the entire car. I did add some green paint in spots to create a little depth which I think turned out really well. If you want to smooth out or feel that you have too much spirit stain use the buffer to remove as much as you want. If you use a cutting compound you will literally buff and it will pull alot more of the stain off. Best thing about paining like this is if you dont like the result you have almost no money in it and can take it right off or make changes in the color or shine in this step. Lastly i added some Gibbs to lock in the color. Sorta a whipe on clear that will fade to give a perfect non glossy look. The Galmet product is also really good here but it stays glossy for alot longer, but i have a feeling it protests alot better too. Then i came back with a rag and really hand buffed off the shine to give a flatter look. It is a little more glossy than i want right now, but when i did this same method on the front it tamed after a week or so. I have been through a few rain storms and none of the color changed. The Gibbs really helps keeping that moisture out.
Biggest take away here is that I think I had maybe 20 bucks in this project for paint cause I had most of these items needed laying around. Also make sure you let the paint dry before adding something over it just like normal painting projects. If you dont the 2nd layer will just eat away that first one, very important in the spirit stain. This product has spirits in it, this is not your normal water based stain. If the base color is not totally dry it will take that paint down to the metal. Here is a little vid I took coming out of the shop the first time.
Looks fantastic…more interesting than a $10,000 paint job! I personally would use dark Navy blue instead of green. It’s said that dark Navy blue added to or under black paint actually make it blacker!
That finish looks great. Actually, the whole car is great. I may have to try your paint technique. I have parts from several cars combined, some blending wouldn't hurt.
Yeah blue would be a really cool option. I went with green cause I painted my motor in the same color so it tied it in and I had the green left over.
Can’t recommend it enough. Very easily achieved. We will see how well it lasts. The front I painted when I got the car running and it’s held up really well.
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