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Hot Rods Turn Signal Toggle

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by nochop, Sep 25, 2024.

  1. nochop
    Joined: Nov 13, 2005
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    Still tossing around using this, have lots to do whilst considering its use image.jpg
     
  2. '29 Gizmo
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    Yep.. used on UK vintage cars. Durite, lucas and There may be shops in the US that stock British car parts.

    This is a UK site https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/categories/vcp-switches-indicator-switches
     
  3. insomniacshotrods
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  4. insomniacshotrods
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    I like the column mount switches, its much easier to find. Just wish they self cancelled, thats why I ran a beeper on mine, never forgot it thats for sure. I may put one in the 36 if I ever get to drive it again, and find I cant see the dash indicators in the day light. I hate leaving them on, plus its a safety issue really. Somebody would think your turning and pull out in front of you.
     
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  5. insomniacshotrods
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    I would put it up farther behind the wheel, easier to reach and you’re likely to hit a knee on it there. Your car, but I’d just see if you like it better right behind the wheel first before wiring.
     
  6. proartguy
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    The Ron Francis turn signal switch has been in my ‘37 over 30 years. I installed a pair of his small led indicators in the speedo, but still leave them on occasionally as I am an old guy driving an old car.
     
  7. nochop
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    Can’t pull the parking brake right below the wheel.
     
  8. insomniacshotrods
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    Oh I understand now. Dang yeah my parking brakes have always been on the floor. Except my 36 and it doesnt have one.
     
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  9. 19Eddy30
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    My dads 1940 Ply had a Emergency brake on the kick panel, driver side shape like a J , I've always liked that style emergency break . I do not know what other makes models used.??
    1940 Ply most of 1 year model , Business coupe...

    My self ,I just like a clean column ,
    My turn, head , ignition Ext ,
    Set Back about 4 inch off front of dash,
    underneath , When you just look in dash clean , sitting in seat you can see the
    buttons/ togs..
    I rarely use my turns unless I need to let someone know what Im doing , I also use this Method,, & option USA #1 IMG_2307.png
     
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  10. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    Hello,

    When we got our 327 powered 40 Ford Sedan Delivery, it did not have a automatic turn signal lever on the column. My wife noticed it right away and wanted one similar to our other cars. It made inside flick of the lever easier than sticking out your hand/arm for the correct signals, we all learned in driver education classes. So, the search was on and since there was no Amazon or other community lists posted. The swap meets for used ones was handy, or after we found one that looked good, we bought one at a dealer’s brand new. We did not want other’s mistakes or errors in wiring problems.
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    I remember saving an old photo of a similar installation. No, this photo is not our 327 powered sedan delivery interior below.
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    The unit was small and I believe it came from a VW shop. The owner of the shop was an electrical whiz and changed over all of the wires to keep it simple. Left down, auto return when finished turning the steering wheel. My wife was happy that the small changes were made. No toggle switch or anything else and it was small enough to almost be hidden behind the large steering wheel. And I painted it a matching paint for the column, so it looked as if it was a part of the whole unit.

    Jnaki

    At the time, it was this small unit, or a chrome accessory clamp on unit that worked, but the chrome did not work in our simple interior scheme. Plus, it was large and stuck out like a sore thumb. Yes, we could have painted it black/brown to blend in, but it was the size of the unit and the clamp on clip that was not cool.
    upload_2024-9-30_3-29-10.png Limeworks + Roadster Supply has a nicely built unit, but could be a little large.
    upload_2024-9-30_3-29-51.png or a historic unit from the way back time machine with questionable wiring. But, at least it comes back to normal without flicking a switch manually. YRMV

     
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  11. Ned Ludd
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  12. nochop
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  13. nochop
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    The only problem is that big olds wheel is in the way of rolling down the window. And I think I my be to far along to move the wheel…..arrrrrg
     
  14. Andy
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    I don’t like the look of a big turn signal switch. I use a micro switch on the side of my 40 column bell. It just activates some relays so very small wires were used. The relays switch the feed to the lights from switches to the flasher. This allowed me to use the original sockets and bulbs.

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  15. nochop
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    Holy crap! Nice
     
  16. Happydaze
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    @Andy, that's neat. How do you route the wires? I'm struggling to see them getting past the top bearing.

    Chris
     
  17. Kerrynzl
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    Use a piezoelectric buzzer on both L & R circuits connected together in a "Y" but with blocking diodes in the 2 feeds [so L signal doesn't cross-feed to the R signal]
    If electronics [diodes] is not too HAMB friendly simply use 2 piezoelectric buzzers [one L ,one R] they are dirt cheap at approx $5 ea.
    I use them a lot [especially for lights-on warning buzzers]


    You can buy piezoelectric buzzers as beepers right up to 110db screaming sirens
    Also use an electronic flasher so it doesn't care about draw [suitable for trailers or LED bulbs]

    I love that unobstructed look.

    You can buy electronic timer relays an set the time [eg: 10 seconds] so it stays flashing for a delayed period after switching off.
    Then you could use a momentary 2 way switch or 2 micro buttons [just push and forget]
     
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  18. Andy
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    Chris, I am not using the stock rubber bushing. I like the “wheelbarrow” flanged bearings. They are 3/4” bore and 1 1/2 od sealed ball bearings. I think I had to add a sleeve to hold the bearing. There was enough room under the bearing to run the wires in the tube and up behind the steering drop.
    Andy
     

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