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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Pops32 Roadster, Oct 1, 2024.

  1. Pops32 Roadster
    Joined: Sep 29, 2024
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    Pops32 Roadster

    The 1932 Roadster Front Passenger Side 4.JPG IMG_5532.JPG IMG_4783.jpg IMG_5681.JPG IMG_5537.JPG IMG_5544.JPG IMG_5546.JPG 19 1932 Roadster Undercarriage.JPG 7 1932 Roadster Gauges.JPG 4 The 1932 Roadster Rear View.jpg 5 1932 Roadster Overhead Interior View.JPG 18 1932 Roadster Brakes.PNG The 1932 Roadster (23).jpg 32 Roadster Passenger Side Front Suspension 1.JPG 32 Roadster Badge.JPG 32 Roadster Canopy Roof Down 16.JPG 32 Roadster Front Passenger Side 3.JPG 32 Roadster 32 Roadster Driver Side Rear Wheel 2 Rear.JPG 32 Roadster Canopy Roof Top 5.JPG Hello

    EDITED: I ADDED PHOTOS!! You GUYS ARE TOUGH!

    My father loved this forum. His Name was: bob da bear (2010?)

    My father's gone now. He left behind his beloved 1932 Roadster. Many of its parts and pieces have been in the family for as long as I can remember. My father didn't leave much information but we have photos. Most of his car friends who helped him are gone too now.

    This what I know:
    It's a Ford steel body surrounded by lots of chrome. It includes a channeled frame, split wishbone front-end suspension, and radius chrome steering rods with vintage bias ply tires. It features a louvered trunk lid, stainless steel floor and battery box located in the trunk.
    At the heart of this vintage beauty sits a Flathead powerhouse. The Flathead has a three deuce setup, Offenhauser heads. There’s also stainless steel straight pipes, coupled with a 3 speed transmission.

    This 32 Roadster has room for two passengers with a canvas convertible top providing an extra layer of protection for you and your sweetheart. The cabin has red leather upholstery wrapped around the cabin and bench seat.

    He registered it HISTORICAL and it has a NYS Transferrable Registration/Title (NY) as far back as 2001(?) (My father said I just needed the NYS Transferable Registration/Title in order to sell it.)

    It's really beautiful and runs great. It is part of the Estate so it must be sold.
    Any leads welcome.


    .
    QUESTIONS:

    -Guys, what is the difference between a Traditional Hot Rod,
    and a Traditional Custom?

    They are similar in the guide lines:
    The Traditional Hot Rod forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to period correct hot rods only. Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, historical threads, and feature threads only.

    The Traditional Custom forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to period correct customs only. Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, historical threads, and feature threads only.


    -Can anyone tell me anything about this car and/or its parts, so that I can list it for sale?

    -Which questions (besides price) will a buyer ask about the car?

    -What do I need to know about selling a car like this?

    Thank you to everyone that has helped!
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    Model Year 1972 or Older
    The acceptable proof of ownership is either

    • a NY State Transferable Registration – must be the original or a certified copy, not a photocopy
    • acceptable proof from another state (Different states issue different documents for ownership and transfer of older vehicles. Make sure that is the acceptable proof of ownership in the state that issued the document.)
    To transfer ownership

    • the owner can use the transferable registration and a bill of sale
    • make sure the registration document is marked "transferable" on the front
    • the seller whose name appears on the transferable registration must sign the back
    https://dmv.ny.gov/titles/acceptable-proofs-of-ownership-for-vehicles

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  2. RodStRace
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    I'm not familiar wirth NYS laws, so hope you get some locals help.
    Here's Ford Barn's answer to serial numbers.
    https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/show...thern California. Posts: 7,138. Re: 1932 Ford
    Many of the 'well known' auction places should be researched before you contract with them. Some require you to sign the title over to them, pay all shipping, pay fees, and if something happens like it did in Scottsdale a few years back, they accept no responsibility. Talk to your insurance Co. before listing the car, too. If you can, try to get an appraisal if this is a high value car. There are scammers in this arena, too so be careful.
    You didn't mention his name or user name, that might help us determine what the car's value is if he posted about it.
    I'll also say that I'm sorry for your loss.
     
  3. Bandit Billy
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    Most auction houses (Barret, Mecum, etc) require not just a photo of the VIN but the title itself to register for an auction. Once they have the title, it is theirs to sell, no take backs. The same is true of high end consignment lots. You send them the car and the title, you get a check when it sells. Always deal with reputable companies.
     
  4. whiteknuckle
    Joined: Feb 6, 2007
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    whiteknuckle
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    from Dryden, NY

    I'm located in NYS. I have a '32 pickup with a transferable registration. I could not find a stamped serial (VIN) number in any of the locations on the chassis where they should be located. From my experience you probably won't get a lot of assistance from DMV. You may want to consider having the vehicle appraised and look into a private sale after some advertisements. Depending on your location I could suggest an appraiser who has been involved in collector cars for decades. Feel free to contact me if I can be of any help.
     
  5. ras
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    ras
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    Post some information about where your dad was from. What shows he and the car might have attended. When the car was built, if he built it or had it built and lastly lots of pictures. As Rod said someone will know the car and be of help, sorry for your loss

    ras
     
  6. alchemy
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    The serial number (mistakenly called a VIN in modern terminology) on a 32 Ford is on top of the front flange of the original transmission, the top left frame rail right where the firewall rests, on top of the left frame rail about the back edge of the door, and again left frame rail where the frame kicks up before the rear axle. You can’t find two of those without removing the body. The transmission has probably been replaced. The only place left is the one near the firewall foot.
     
  7. Tow Truck Tom
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    Tow Truck Tom
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    from Clayton DE

    You are signed on here.
    Sell it here.
     
  8. There are lots of broker-type agencies that list your car on their website. Some of them come to you and take all the photos and write the copy, some of them do less and you will have to do a little more. In some cases, buyers may come directly to you to do the horsetrading part...... some of the brokers have there own showrooms where you have to bring the car.
    Also, be aware that once you "list" a car you may become a magnet for "flippers" who want to buy low and resell high.
    You have to look at your options. If you want to be insulated from the gypsies you'll have to pay a broker a bit more for him to be a middleman. If you want to pay a bit less and skip some of the broker services, you'll have to stay in the kitchen and take the heat.
    If you find a buyer that you feel good about, that he will maintain the car, keep it running, and honor the blood, sweat, and tears your father put in it, it could be worth it to you to work with him on the price instead of hanging on for top dollar.
    Where are you and the car located? Someone close might have an idea for you that has good potential.
     
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  9. That's a good idea for forum members who have a quota of seasoned posts here and have run the gauntlet to prove they're not a scammer or a flake. It's certainly good advice for anyone "known" to the rest of us. But you never know...... anyone here could take a ride and check the car out...... and maybe make a fair offer.
     
  10. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
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  11. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    It is located in Buffalo New York
     
  12. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
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  13. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    We looked everywhere we could on the car.
     
  14. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
  15. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    I don't know how to sell it here.
    Or where to post more photos. I also have a few short videos.
    I also can't answer many questions about it because I don't know enough about it. It sat in a car museum for a year until we could decide what to do with it. It is now in storage. If you see this Roadster you will know its a great car and worth it.

    This is what I know:

    This Original Ford steel body includes a channeled frame, split wishbone front-end suspension, and radius chrome steering rods with vintage bias ply tires with louvered trunk lid, stainless steel floor and battery box, which is located inside of the trunk.

    At the heart of this vintage beauty sits a Flathead engine that ensures an exhilarating driving experience, making every outing an adventure. The flathead was painstakingly rebuilt with a three deuce setup, Offenhauser heads, Edelbrock aluminum valve covers, electronic fuel-injection and ignition, stainless steel straight pipes, coupled with the manual transmission using Mercury Zephyr Gears. It's also endlessly customizable to make it your own.

    The Roadster has room for two passengers and a canvas convertible top which adds an extra layer of protection for you and your sweetheart. Inside the cabin you’ll find red leather upholstery wrapped around the cabin and bench seat for a timeless look.

    Own a real piece of old-school automotive history; they just aren't built this way anymore. With its powerful Flathead, captivating black and flame job exterior, and comfortable interior, it offers the perfect blend of style and performance.

    It is turn-key and ready to roll. It has a NYS Transferable Registration. Mileage 2853.
    Serious Buyers ONLY prepared to make a written offer.
     
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  16. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
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  17. 29Sleeper
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    29Sleeper
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    from SoCal

    Sell it yourself or expect to lose 10-30% of the value to have someone do the work for you.
    Nice 32 roadsters with flatheads are good sellers and generally seen in the $40-80,000 range here in SoCal. Your area may vary.
    Bring A Trailer is a viable auction that gets a lot of attention and good money. You can also set a reserve. They'll send someone to take photos and also write the ad copy with enough ambiguity that you can't get sued for a bad description. Make sure the car is running well and detailed before the photos.
    https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=32+ford+roadster
     
  18. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    My father was from Buffalo, New York. He was a Chevy Worker. His nickname was Bear.
    He won a trophy for it at Olcott Beach Car Show in 2003. He did not show it often. He worked on it in his garage with friends until he became ill. The body has been in our family for years and I'm not sure about the rest of it. He said something about it having matching numbers?
    I think the oldest Registration we found was from 2001? I have a stack of them, some old manuals, and receipts. And I think we have photos albums of him working on it.

    Please talk to your children more about these cars. Maybe make some recordings?
     
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  19. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
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  20. nochop
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    from norcal

    Never heard of a matching number 32
     
  21. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    Thank you for the resource.
    The auction place is a well-known name and valued it closer to the higher end of your estimate. They said there were no recent comps because most of these for sale now are reproductions.
     
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  22. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
  23. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    Thank you for the advice.
    I want to get a fair price. I want it to have a good home.
    I was already low-balled at $30,000; which was rejected. I've already had to deal with few umm... people.
    I can't trailer it anywhere; I'm not a car person.
    But I can let interested buyers see it, if they are serious.
    It is located in Buffalo, New York. Buffalo is not a good market for this type of car.
    Yes of course I want to be insulated from the flippers and the gypies!
     
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  24. squirrel
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    Did you look specifically where the numbers should be? "on top of the front flange of the original transmission, the top left frame rail right where the firewall rests, on top of the left frame rail about the back edge of the door, and again left frame rail where the frame kicks up before the rear axle."

    I would not buy a car that does not have a number on it that matches the title/registration. You might want to make another effort to see if you can sort this out. It's important.
     
  25. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
  26. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    Yeah I don't know what that means? What would have matching numbers?
     
  27. squirrel
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    Oh, perhaps the transmission and the frame?
     
  28. I'm sorry for your loss.:(

    When deciding a course of action, ask yourself which is more important; getting top dollar for the roadster or a faster, hassle-free sale?
     
  29. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

     
  30. Pops32 Roadster
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    Pops32 Roadster

    yes we looked. I had a mechanic look it over too.

    Can a moderator perhaps look up my father's name on this forum?
     
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