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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. J.Ukrop
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    Thanks everyone! The fog has its charm, but I couldn't be happier about the summer weather right now. Hopefully we'll have more developments on the radiator support status soon.

    Every time the Vern book says it'll be easy or quick, that's when I know I need to buckle up. I was happy to see my sector shaft bushings arrived a day early from Millworks. So, when work wound down, I got right to business. After a little bit of strategic hammer and socket work, I was able to get both bushings into position. When I went to test fit the sector shaft, it wasn't even close to working. For the rest of the night I sanded, cleaned, and test-fit. Sanded. Sanded. Sanded. Sanded. Test fit. Sanded. Sanded. Dremel. Test fit. Took a walk. Came back. Tried creative solutions. Eventually, progress was made. It may have taken a couple of hours, but I'm really happy with the way the sector shaft fits.

    Nothing on this car happens fast. That's okay, as long as the quality is good. Next time I'm in the garage, I'll start steering box assembly.
     
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    No photos from the garage tonight. How's this for a traditional article title?
     
  3. Tim
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    I seem to recall I used some adhesive backed sandpaper wrapped around a kingpin to “hone” mine to size. Getting closer!
     
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    Joey, the sector and bushing are supposed to be a machine fit, you just can't get that using sand paper, plus
    you run the risk of galling or binding with lack of lube. I used to use reamers, but found the sector would be
    either be too tight or loose. I decided to take the boxes down to the machine shop where they have a rod hone
    machine, mic the sector machine the bushing, perfect fit. I have two different pullers for removing the bearing
    cup with a slide hammer. Makes the job easy, I really like Nealinca use of a welded washer if you don't have a
    puller.
     
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  5. I am just the new caretaker for my 30, but nothing is ever quick working on a hotrod. I think that is part of the fun and point of working on a hotrod anyways... at least that is what I tell myself :D.
     
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    Anything that can be fitted can be fitted by hand. It might take a while and it my not happen the first time. My friend had an AK 47 made almost completely by hand in Afghanistan. It functioned perfectly and was as accurate as most factory made ones.
     
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    Sitting here on another warm San Francisco night, I'm winding down what I would consider a perfect weekend. On Friday afternoon, I went to the local hardware store to secure the steel and fasteners for my upcoming throttle pedal bracket. If all goes to plan, I'll start on that next week.

    As much as I wanted to spend Friday night in the garage, I switched gears and baked a key lime pie instead. My neighbors gifted us a carton of fresh limes from their parents' house in San Jose, and I figured it'd be the perfect opportunity to make one of my favorite warm-weather desserts. With the pie cooling in the freezer, I went to bed dreaming of Saturday in Petaluma.
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    At the shop, we inspected my steering box and took the necessary steps for a smooth operation. Then assembly began. Following the Tardel book step by step, I pieced together the box. Along the way, I'd ask David and Justin for input, making sure I was heading in the right direction. IMG_5066.jpg
    The end result couldn't have been more exciting. I now have a fully rebuilt F-1 steering box set up for a '32 Ford frame, complete with a 1939 Ford steering column and a 1954 Hudson Hornet steering wheel. Everything is tight, and it steers oh-so-smoothly.
    IMG_5100.jpg It looks right at home, but don't worry: it'll get lock washers and cotter pins for final assembly. Another huge step checked off the list!
     
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    Inspired by yesterday's progress, I dove right in this morning and started bending the clutch pedal (again). Frustrated by last time, I devised a plan to do things differently. IMG_5101.jpg
    It's getting late here, but I'll share more about this process tomorrow.
     
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    Your comment on "Warm San Francisco Night" instantly conjured up Eric Burdon and The Animals;

     
  10. My first thought as well @LCGarage !
    Nice job Joey.
     
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    Nice work Joey! Thanks for taking us along in detail through these small steps.

    What started as a warm summer evening turned to a cool foggy night in '63 when my friend & I double dated in SF in his '62 Vette. Both girls & I were mostly stuffed into the passenger side. Very cozy!
     
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    Glad you guys caught the reference. In the past week, we've had the best weather that I've ever experienced in San Francisco in the past 9.5 years. Shorts, sandals, motorcycles (not in shorts or sandals), patio drinks, ice cream cones, concerts in the park—all that's missing is some roadster miles.

    That's traditional SF weather!
     
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    On Sunday morning I sprung into action. Both the vise and the roadster itself acted as heat sinks, so I grabbed a piece of wire and hung the clutch pedal from the outside of our fire pit. Out of curiosity, I broke out the timer on my phone to see how long it really took to get it red hot. The answer? Eight minutes. With a gloved hand, I carefully brought it over to the vise I had mounted on our back porch with a giant C-clamp. IMG_5101.jpg
    Using my right hand, I popped the torch back on and continued to apply heat. With my left, I grabbed the pedal and leaned backwards with all my weight. The pedal moved. Thankfully, vise didn't move too much. When I thought I was close, I rushed down to the garage to mock it up. Just a little more, I said. I repeated the process until the very hot pedal cleared the column.
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    I'm overall happy with how they look. That said, I'll need to trim a little bit of the subframe, which shouldn't be a problem. The K-member will also need to be notched, but I'll tackle that once the body is off so I can make it clean and ensure everything is strong.
     
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    If I ever win the lottery, I'll chrome the brake pedal to match. In the meantime, I'm going to paint it silver in the same vein as the headers.

    That puts us up to speed for now. I finally bought some pieces for my coil mount, so that will be a fun one-night project for sometime down the line. I'm also waiting on my radiator supports, which should be here later this week. Oh, and once payday rolls around, I'm buying my chassis paint (!)
     
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    One final item before I sign off:
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    David and our friend Ted are diving into their new 1930 Model A roadster project, and they're hunting for a Hilderbrant or Offy adapter for a 59AB to a LaSalle trans. They've searched high and low but nothing has turned up. David has helped me so much with my project, and I'd love to be able to help him out by finding one. If you know of any, please let me know. I'll also add it to my signature.
     
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    When my Buddy gets back from T.R.O.G. I'll ask him, he just might have one......
     
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    I’d be curious if you could
    “Chrome” paint that pedal. Seems the trick is the worlds glossiest shiny black and then hit that with the chrome paint. Best case senario it kinda looks like chrome that’s down half way to the nickle and polished back up. I’m going to try it on a. Few pieces to match some old used up chrome on a project I’ve got going together.
     
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    Also can’t get more traditional than throwing it in the fire pit and clamping it to the porch haha.
     
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    There was a guy we used to laugh at in high school because he painted the wheels on his '50 Chevy coupe silver just as chrome wheels were becoming popular. We called him "Silver Wheels". Then we found out he put the money for his build in a 394 Olds Sky Rocket crate motor. No chrome needed.
     
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    Thank you!!

    I've heard of that. Keep me posted on how it looks!

    This made me laugh so hard. One of the best posts of the whole thread.

    Hahhaha if I could afford to chrome it, I would!
     
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    Tonight's only update is that my new radiator support rods showed up, and it looks like they're going to work great. IMG_5141.jpg
    Oftentimes, A-V8s have the radiator rods running uphill. I've devised a solution where I think I'm able to eliminate that issue while still running straight rods. For my homework assignment, I'm going to look at some Southard books to see if I should paint the rods or keep 'em shiny. My prediction is that the answer will fall somewhere in between, much like on Version 1.5.

    That's all for tonight. My parts pile is growing, which means that I'm in a great position to get things done.
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    Spotted this machine on the '50s hot rod thread. Can't wait to paint my firewall black!
     
  22. Tim
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    Dig the copper color inside the carb stacks!

    I think if I was going to change one end or the other I’d raise the attachment points on the firewall. I’ve seen guess make a bracket to drop them on the radiator side but I would be afraid they would lever and eventually work harden/fail leaving a hole in the radiator.

    Looking forward to seeing what you do :)
     
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    I'm eager to see what you do here.
     
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  24. Six Ball
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    Could you make a bracket (small flat plate) that bolts the the radiator bracket and drops the rods just enough and not be ugly?
     
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    Oftentimes, A-V8s have the radiator rods running uphill.

    So were mine. This was my fix, worked really well and no one has ever noticed them. The extensions were made from motorcycle tire irons, very stout. IMG_3260.JPG IMG_3261.JPG .
     
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  26. When you're in doubt, shiny wins out...
     
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  27. The saying we adhere to is: "chick's dig chrome".
     
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    Now I know what my problem has been all these years. I thought it was "chrome don't get you home"
     
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    At the risk of sounding rude, If chrome doesn't get me home, but it gets me to her place, I will deal with it in the morning! :D
     
  30. Six Ball
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    If it don't go, chrome it!
     
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