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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. My wife likes to say "nothing says I love you like chrome". I got her glove box door chromed for her for Christmas one year.
     
  2. Beanscoot
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    What's that old Navy saying, "If it moves, salute it, if it doesn't, paint it, if it's brass (or chrome), polish it."
     
  3. Offy still has the patterns for the flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter.

    I've reached out to them on multiple occasions inquiring about them making a run, if we did a pre-sale or something. I gave up eventually, as they are one of the worst communicating companies I've ever dealt with.
     
  4. 51 mercules
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    Offy was at the RPM Nationals at Rancho Santa Margarita,Ca a few years ago and I asked them about the flathead to La Salle and Hemi to La Salle Adapters and they said there wasn't a big enough market for them to do a run.I also asked them about a pre order run and they didn't seem interested.
     
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  5. I think they're out of touch with that. I don't know how many they need for a run.(one of the things I was asking and never got an answer too)

    but I get asked about flathead to lasalle Adapters at least once a month, if not more. I could have sold 30-40 of them in the time between my inquires and now. I get that's probably low production for them. But I'm not the only one looking either.

    they've also reached out to me, about becoming a dealer, than never return my phone calls.

    Not impressed with that company at all.
     
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    I think you're right about them being out of touch. Sounds like you would of had enough customers to fill a run. I have a 37 La Salle Trans and a 50 olds trans. I would of bought at least one adapter maybe two .
     
  7. Six Ball
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    All you need is one for a pattern.
    Steel Lakewood scatter shields would be a good place to start to build one. Cutting and welding is simple.
     
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  8. Oh I have a lasalle adapter. That's not the problem for me. I actually need a packard adapter. I just have a lot of customers contacting about lasalle adapters, as I've had a lot of lasalle transmissions and 3 or 4 adapters for sale over the years. It was just a $$$ making venture for me.

    The problem with making my own, for me, whether lasalle or packard, lies in how the ford clutch is actuated. It's not as simple of a build as it sounds. Not saying it cant be done. But that level of precision is probably beyond my tool capabilities at this time. (Note to self: buy more and better tools)

    Also let's not clog up Joey's thread to much on this stuff, just because he mentioned needing one.
     
  9. Six Ball
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    I think the Studebaker clutch release setup is worse but most will never have to del with it.
     
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    Hi all, thanks for the insight on the adaptor. Please keep me posted if one eventually does surface.

    Over the weekend, my best friend (who happens to also be my brother) got married in Michigan. It was incredible to be back home, surrounded by the ones I love most, celebrating him on his big day. IMG_5216.jpg
    Before the ceremony, we took a trip as a family to the Meyer May house, which was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright and built in 1908. IMG_6943.jpg
    Here you can see us trying it out for size. We both decided that the roadster would look great parked in front of it. That's a good thing, because Andrew now lives nearby. When I drive Version 2.0 across the country, you know I'll be stopping at his house—and this one too.
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    I got home late Sunday night, and it didn't take me long to dive right back into the car. I was exhausted on Monday due to the jet-lag, but I managed to disassemble the spoon pedal. IMG_5268.jpg
    I'm still loving my Work-Mate, now with a vise. Some people have multi-car garages or access to 220V, but I'm excited that I now have vises in the driveway and the backyard. It's the little things!
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    The pedal came apart fairly easily. I did end up just drilling out the old pin.
     
  12. J.Ukrop
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    Tonight, I started my night with some CAD (Cardboard Aided Design). Justin gave me some excellent advice on the throttle configuration, so I used his roadster as a guide.
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    Angle iron soon replaced the cardboard.
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    Next, I wanted to see where everything should go.
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    Feeling pretty good.
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    A few small holes, one pickle-shaped one, and some hardware.
     
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    And here's as far as we got tonight. I still need to trim the pedal shaft housing, install the second eyelet, and bolt the whole thing in place. It was super fun to have a general idea of how to do this and just get after it. That's the joy of building a hot rod at home!

    A few things to note:

    1) When it's finished, the whole assembly will be painted semi-gloss black. The firewall will be too, so it'll all blend together.
    2) I have the linkage on its way; it'll be here on Friday.
    3) I plan to make a little aluminum doghouse for the upper throttle arm. Justin has one on his roadster and I love the look of it. Fabbing it up will be my reward once this portion is completed.
     
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    Hitting the gas for the first time. Can't wait to do this once the linkage is all set up.

    It's important to note that once the gas pedal has been sorted out, I can focus my attention to the floor and the gas tank mount. Once those two boxes have been checked, the car is coming apart. We're getting close to teardown!
     
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    Check out the open hours for Taliesin West in Scottsdale AZ. This was Frank Lloyd Wright's winter campus. Been there three times and never fail to be amazed at his work. There are pictures of a car he designed and had built.
     
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    Cool man!

    out of curiosity any reason you went with the pickle hole instead of clocking the arm to be flat with the firewall and then when pressing the gas it heads onwards the dash? You already need to drill a new pin hole from the sounds of it you could clock that new hole?


    Maybe I’m looking at the photos wrong?
     
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    Here’s the setup that I’m basing mine off of:
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    I’ll still be bending/clocking/adjusting. Justin said that the firewall was set up like this back in the day. In my effort to make an era-correct build, I’m following suit. Note the doghouse.
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  18. Six Ball
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    Congratulations to Andrew!
    Man, space is at premium around the throttle! So much easier if there was room on the other side of the firewall. Looks good.
     
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    Thanks, all! Tonight's progress wasn't too crazy, but it's progress nonetheless.
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    I shortened the housing and installed the second eyelet. I'll be using a small piece of tubing for the final stretch to the left of the eyelet. Once the linkage is in place, I'll bolt the bracket to the firewall and prepare to re-drill the shaft once I'm happy with the performance. IMG_5299.jpg
    That's all for tonight. Hopefully I'll wrap the throttle project up this weekend.
     
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    Joey, I'm sure this has crossed your mind, but you want the top arm to be vertical at half throttle if possible. Less arc in the travel. Make sure it doesn't overtravel and stick at WOT.
     
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    Looks like a good solid base in the midst of a bunch if jiggly pieces. Maybe a tiny supporting bearing in/on the tube near the pedal end?
     
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    Great info. Thanks for the heads up!

    Thank you! I'll look into that idea.
     
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    All smiles on the terrace tonight—I got to show Andrew my progress on the build. It was really fun to take a step back and remember how far it's come since the last time he saw it. Next time, he may be helping me get it on the road (again!)
     
  24. Tim
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    I think the photo may be deceiving there are two very tight fitting mounts on the pedal cross shaft already, sorta tighter together by the sleeve over the shaft between them. I would guess from the edge of the drivers side support to the pedal is maybe 1.25 1.5 inches.

    I don’t think any of that when mounted tight is going to wiggle a bit. It’s narrowed from stock and the stock ones I have are pretty firm.

    the set up also doesn’t really let the assembly shift side to side inside those two mounts. I think he should be ok unless I’m missing something
     
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    Iron 1-1.jpg Another fun weekend turning wrenches and making progress. Since the weather was nice, I had to roll the roadster out for a couple of pictures. This is the furthest Version 2.0 has been down the driveway. Details to follow soon!
     
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    That subtle chassis rake really puts it right on mark. Wild how a little rubber here, a leaf there can really change a cars personality
     
  28. Six Ball
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    Wheels & stance, wheels & stance, Wheels & stance............
    Looks like it is ready for a SF brake & steering coaster test. :rolleyes:
     
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  29. That is sitting perfect. Right out of the little books
     
  30. Andy
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    Bringing back the adapter part of the thread.
    I made an adapter.
    A friend had a SBC married to a cad gearbox. The adapter was a stock SBC bell housing and a stack of 1/4 al plates. It was horrendous. It did work! It has been a while but I think some of the bolt holes matched up. The adapter I made was just 1” thick and it had the recess for the floating front retainer
    You could get a flathead to Chevy adapter and make a simple flat adapter plate. The one I made worked just fine.
     

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