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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by gatz, Oct 21, 2024.

  1. gatz
    Joined: Jun 2, 2011
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    After contacting the seller regarding classic car for sale, here's the answer via email…
    >
    VIN: 3N561885
    Copy of the title attached.
    Let me explain to you how everything works. You provide me with your full information. They will send some documents for you to sign and send them back. After that, you will pay them and they will start the shipping. You will receive the car at your location, and you will have an inspection period of 7 days to test drive the car and check it with a mechanic. If the car is as I said, I will get paid, otherwise you will receive a full refund within 24 hours. Shipping back will be on me. I've been using their services for over 4 years and I love their services because they are very good.
    Ready to proceed?
    <
    he did furnish a copy of the title which looks new.
    Car in question is a 1956 Chrysler 300B for $16,800
    Hate to sound naive, but it looks like a scam.
    Any advice from those who have been down this road?
     
  2. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
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    Don't you dare send them any money. that has scam written all over it.
    Find out where the car is and tell him you have a brother that lives in that town and he will come and inspect the car, pay cash and pick it up, I bet you will not hear back... there is no car
     
  3. Budget36
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    And who is the company you are paying?
    I’d not handover 17k and “hope”.
    I’d want to see ID’s, etc of the people receiving the money, call and verify with the company that is holding the escrow account.
    Airfare to verify is less expensive than the alternative.
     
  4. your supposed to say "I have a friend local to you, that will hand over cash in person and pick it up, please have the tile and car ready."
    They usually disappear right after that.
     
  5. Stu D Baker
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  6. This is the most important question. Who is they. One of the safest ways to buy something is to have the money put in a third party escrow account and then once the transaction is completed and all conditions are met the money is transferred by that party to the seller. If it is a legitimate escrow agent like a bank it is a very safe way for both parties to handle a large money transaction.
     
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  7. '29 Gizmo
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    Last edited: Oct 21, 2024
  8. TexasHardcore
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    The wording in their reply is suspect, especially "ready to proceed?". I'd stay far away.
     
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  9. RodStRace
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    Tell them you are on an offshore oil rig and can't send info or receive mail. You do have a trusted associate who is willing to travel to their location and take it to a shop for inspection. Please so kind to provide car location and hours open for pickup! :D
     
  10. gatz
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  11. Unkl Ian
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    Basically:

    "Let me explain to you how everything works.
    You give me money, and I disappear.
    Ready to proceed?"
     
  12. '29 Gizmo
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    '29 Gizmo
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    I forgot to mention in my above post that the simplist and quickest way to filter out most scams is to ask for addional photos of the car or item with a specific request for an item to be in shot. Something they can only do if they actually have the item.
     
  13. gatz
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    < keeping him on the line
    asked where car is located .... twice
    and that I would need to inspect the car before proceeding
     
  14. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    "They" is his alter ego, pretending to be a trustworthy middleman.

    As an added bonus, this clown will sell your name and number, to his scammer friends.
     
  15. gatz
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    I will do that....
     
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  16. RodStRace
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  17. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    Another variation is: They want a smaller cash deposit, up front,
    you pay the balance on delivery. $1000, to $5000 is common.
    Only the car never arrives, and they have collected deposits from 6 people.
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2024
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  18. I can smell that ad from here....and I'm in the other hemisphere!
     
  19. Fitty Toomuch
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    Put up the link so nobody else gets had.
     
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  20. Tow Truck Tom
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    This is the part that gives me a kick. :rolleyes:,,,SO WHAT!!!
     
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  21. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    If you string together enough positive adjectives, some morons will believe anything.
     
  22. JD Miller
    Joined: Nov 12, 2011
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    Mucho Scam-a-mundo
     
  23. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    I'm going to say this. Find out where it allegedly is, Ask on here if there is any one reasonably close enough to go look at it and take photos and develop an opinion. The opinion could be Yes it is what he says it is, No it is a POS and all roached out.
    Tell the seller that you want to have a friend go look at it and say you need to set up a time for him to look at it and need a phone number and address.
    If he actually gives you name, address and phone number proceed, if he won't you lucked out and didn't get ripped off.
    Buy the guy who went and looked at it lunch and give him gas money either way.

    A few years back a guy on the truck board I spend a lot of time contacted me about this truck. https://photobucket.com/bucket/c5e8...74/album/2724fdd2-8ed6-4f73-9e14-b448d521a2ec The photo album is the photos I took and sent to the guy who was looking at buying it, it was just a lot easier to load them in an album on my photobucket.
    It was about 15 miles west of me and ended up belonging to a couple that I have known since I was I high school in the 60's. I gave my opinion and pointed out a few things and he bought it and Jr put it on a convoy truck and shipped it to the east coast.
     
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  24. 51504bat
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    Run, Forest, Run.
     
  25. Tow Truck Tom
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    My point being, that that is not the way business, in these parts, is done.
    The subject is the car.
    If 'seller':D has been moving cars for 4 years, his reporting ought to support the car.
    So
    If you love the guy why would I care?
    Oh, you want me relaxed when I kiss my bucks goodbye.
    It ain't Carvana
     
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  26. BJR
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    If it was not a scam, "their services" would be replaced with the name of the company.
     
  27. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    Take the pics you have, and run them through a reverse search on google.
     

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