Gentlemen, does anyone have any more pictures or any info on this rad lil’ John ****era Chevy II drag car from 1966?
Do you have evidence that points to it being an R&B built car? The chop was radical but many early FC’s were.
John originally built the Novette with his son Chris. There is no indication that the Novette morphed into the funny car in OP. Instead, it became the Angry Nova. https://www.streetmusclemag.com/fea...on-mcgiltons-1963-chevy-ii-is-one-angry-nova/
The funny car was YEARS before his sons project, so there’s no way it could have morphed into the funny car
I see the Novette was built in the 1980's. A quick search doesn't show another Nova attributed to Lil John. Can you provide any web links for the funny car? Where did your two photos come from?
The reason I asked if it was an R&B car from John’s days in Kenosha, WI is because John’s dragster, FC and hot rod builds after he relocated to California seem to be very well do***ented.
Fist pic posted , Looks 60s by what's shown , I do not know if a Funny & if all had lift up Body's, I was just saying , looks like front of engine setting @ front seat location, driver head @ sail panel, Very low , chop top for less air drag .
Possible.... If Jungle's car was possibly debuted after the 66 season, which it was, then......Hmmmm One year from solid to flip....... John's car had to be flip, or get in from the top.
Heres Lil's nova he built for his son. Killer little car https://www.motortrend.com/magazines/hot-rod/issue/571534/
One of the Hot Rod Drag Racing Pictorial retrospectives from the late ‘70s-early ‘80s had this shot and a caption stating Little John built this as an early Funny circa ‘65 - but no other info, or any mention of it being a Rollain and ****era car - but that time frame would indicate it most likely was.
The term Funny car was not a common term Known used a cl*** until 69 ish, Off top of my head ', I am sure the 1st pic of post Was before the F-C cl*** , People would show up @' track , what every was Weighed , engine size ,fuel , body style and modifications & ***igned a cl*** for that day , Different track Diffrent cl***es , There where only about 4-5 National events before 70, NHRA, ADRA Ext ***ociations were confusing in those days, In many cases , there would be a FED 7 sec running a 14 sec other lane @ Pristine race day in finials , Many Rule change & a stranded set of Rules started in 70ish ' National event races
Back when the Nova was built there were numerous cars being built that didn't fit into any NHRA category, and were simply "Match Racers" and "Altered Wheelbase Cars". They would challenge each other, or as this type of car became even more popular they'd simply run for a prize that various big tracks offered. Mazmanian's old "football g***er" which he chopped too far to run in the AA/GS cl*** became one of these match racers. He could have run it as an Altered, but chose not to. A number of these cars initially just pushed the limits of Gas Cl*** rules and got moved to the Altered Cl***, but they soon became so extreme and so common that even the Altered Cl*** didn't apply. Fans loved them, and that's part of what made NHRA finally make a cl*** for what fans called "Funny Cars". Of course we all know that spelled the end of the various G***ers that dominated NHRA drag racing for a very long time.
OK @MrG***er here's some outstanding info from GLD/Union Grove history page, via Ron Thums: "Renowned ch***is-builder John ****era (of R&B Automotive in Kenosha) in Real Gusto, his first (and last) funny car ride. The super-chopped Chevy II, still unlettered here, is seen during a shakedown run at Union Grove. ****era eventually crashed this car -- Union Grove? Cordova? -- and the undamaged ch***is then went under Bill Sontag's long-lived Turncoat Cougar, which survives today. It seems little known outside of SE Wisconsin that ****era drove rails in the mid-Sixties -- R&B shop cars as well as for Charlie Proite." Pic of the car lettered: After the Chevy II body was damaged, the ch***is was sold and went under the "Turncoat" Cougar FC, which interestingly was campaigned by Bill Sontag, owner of the "Touch and Go" Chevy II pictured above. The "Turncoat" is still around BTW. Yes photo here is technically OT but relevant, first version of "Turncoat" (later it was red). Stardust in the background. Also looks like the Turncoat has a hinged hatch. Finally here's a pic of a "Real Gusto" altered in progress taken in front of the R&B shop on 64th st in Kenosha. Because of the car's name I'm ***uming this was another ride for John ****era but before or after the Chevy II? Building is still standing: The shot we've all seen;
This is the Turncoat Funnycar around ten years ago @ Route 66 raceway. Appoligies to the mods in advance for posting OT pic.
moving this to the off topic forum. the main board is no place for cougars, chargers and flip top funny cars