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Projects BUILDING VINTAGE SUPERMODIFIED " KILLER"

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  1. Frames
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    2024-12-03 09.56.56-1.jpg 2024-12-03 09.56.56-3.jpg 42" long spring in front of the axle for stability and longer spring base. Dead perch on the left. My 1965 front weight jacker. [ Copied by many others in M S C ] I- H spindles on a Ford tube axle. Cross torsion rear suspension. 6 pin knock offs in front. Wide 5 rear end. One radius rod on RR. 2 radius rods on LR. [ Hot dog Wisconsin setup back in the day. ] 2024-11-29 17.01.13-2.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-3.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-4.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-5.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-6.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-7.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-8.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-9.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-10.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-11.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-12.jpg 2024-11-29 17.01.13-13.jpg J bar Panhard bar for lower roll center. 8-1 Schroeder steering.
     
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  2. Unkl Ian
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  3. catdad49
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    You and Marty Strode speak the same language!
     
  4. Wow- fascinating engineering.:cool:
    What kind of rear brakes with finned aluminum calipers?
    Will it have front brakes?
     
  5. Frames
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    Thank you. The brakes are Wilwood G M replacements. Purchased GOODSGUYS   PACKARD 018.JPG 4 at a swap meet for $25.00 for all 4. Used 2 on the front of my black 27. Right now I don't have plans for front brakes. Maybe the LF only.
     
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  6. Frames
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    I have to agree 100%. That ol Marty is really something else.
     
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  7. Frames
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    Figuring out the lines for the body. Have a hard time coming up with a C A E supermodified hood. 28.5" wide at the rear. Ran several want ads. Speedway Motors does not have a mold. HELP. Aluminum doors and tail. 2024-12-03 09.56.56-5.jpg
     
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  8. The37Kid
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    Great looking build! The "corners" on the frame table were the first thing I noticed.;)
     
  9. Frames
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    The frame table was made for straitening frames. I added the two I-beams. Company called Appied Power built it. Butler Wisconsin. 25 miles from my old shop. I paid $200.00 delivered back in 1978. It's heavy.
     
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  10. Marty Strode
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    Dennis, I don’t know how you keep doing it !
    Great looking car.
     
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  11. BrerHair
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    Yes, remarkable. Beautiful.
     
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  12. sr
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    More progress?
     
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  13. Phillips
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    @Frames saw this ad, do you recall who ran it originally? I realize the wing is OT.

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  14. Frames
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    I built it 1973 for owner/driver Ron Marish. He was an exceptionally good driver. S B C engine. The next year I installed a B B C engine. 1975 Ron sold the car to Bill Klien. Fire in his garage ruined my aluminum body. BILL KLIEN # 67.jpg
     
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  15. Frames
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    Ron Marish. I asked Ron if he ever took chances driving this car. He said " Anyone could win driving this car" #67 Bill Klien 2nd owner. [ Independent front suspension. ] 2015-03-18 20.16.41.jpg
     
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  16. Frames
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    It's shame what has been done to this car. The car was virtually unbeatable in it's day. It deserves to be restored. It's a very easy body to build. The only body work is where you see the primer and the nose. I did the welding with a torch. img637.jpg
     
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  17. Frames
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    img586.jpg View attachment 6272379 M S C 1970 rules called for O E M bodies [ cut down O K ] Old bodies were getting scarce so I started to use later sheet metal still available in salvage yards. Pontiac Tempest, 67 Nova and Buick Special. I R A rules did not require a roof or O E M frame rails. View attachment 6272379 For Killer I will be using 67 Nova rear 1/4 panels. $206.00 PAIR from Parts Geek. Al Schill.jpg img045.jpg
     
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  18. Frames
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    Change of plans for the body. I will build a buck to do a tail similar to this very early Kenny Weld super modified. I will raise the rear of the hood and not drop the door openings. Where I spent at least 3 days building the buck to do the sprint roadster tail this one I figure I can get it done in a day. I already have a buck similar to what I need. It's the one I built to do my lakes modified nose. HELP. Have not been able to come up with a C A E wide supermodified hood. 28.5 " at the rear. Speedway Motors does not have the mold. Kenny WEld.jpg 2021-12-25 19.09.45-2 - Copy.jpg
     
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  19. Frames
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    New Years Eve did the back panel for the tail. Annealed the corners and flanged the ends to make it easier to weld the top and side panels on. 2025-01-01 20.15.10-5.jpg
     
  20. Frames
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    G M alumunum 2025-01-03 16.20.48-1.jpg 2025-01-03 16.20.48-2.jpg 2025-01-03 16.20.48-3.jpg replacement calipers. These were made by Sierra. Iv'e never heard of them. Don't want to sell them. I have a new pair of Wilwoods for 1" thick rotors. $125.00 each.
     
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  21. Frames
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    I built the buck to do the top and side panels like the professionals do. IE; Join the 2 panels in the middle of the radius. Anneal the edges and shrink. Compound curve top & side. Did not work out for me like the metal shapers instructions book. I gave up after doing one side and called Damon. Full time metal shaper. He took the buck and the panel. Fixed the side I messed up and shaped the other side all with a power hammer. It is a thing of beauty now. Nice to know what you are doing. I think I can handle the sides. Only a single very small curve. 2025-01-26 14.49.43-1.jpg 2025-01-26 14.49.43-2.jpg
     
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  23. Frames
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    2025-05-24 09.28.08-2.jpg I started build # 4. It has priority to finish. 32 roadster #1. Offset sprint roadster #2. Supermodified Killer #3. While waiting for the 2 1/4 " frame rails for next chassis to be bent I built the rear bumper for Killer. It's off to the chrome shop now.
     
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  24. Sharpone
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    Excellent
    Dan
     
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  25. Frames
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    Bent rails for build # 4 arrived but I decided to build the roll cage for the Killer. Build # 3. 2025-05-31 21.08.27-1.jpg
     
  26. Frames
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    Changed the J-bar to go under the drive shaft. Same roll center. Moved seat back 2".
     
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  27. Marty Strode
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    Correct, he was from Vader, Washington.
     
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  28. Frames
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    Working hard on " Old Yelar " 2025-07-25 09.53.16-1.jpg No progress on " Killer " but mounted a new 500-15 rib and painting rear wheels Arizona beige. Somewhat like Dow 7 color.
     
  29. sr
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    from Monterey

    Can you post a photo of the rear wheel with the Arizona beige?
     

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