Technical ***December 2024 Banger Meet Thread - Santa, I was bad, but good at it***

Link to previous month: November 2024 Banger Meet

Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts
https://eraspeed.com/

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

Had a little four banger meet up yesterday…

 

Picked up a Whippet grill shell from cactus1 here on the Hamb. Three Springer still moving forward.

 

First post - purchased a 30 Tudor and it had juice brakes on it from an 80’s restoration. Could someone confirm what year these are off of?

 

Those are early 40's lincoln brakes.. Bendix made, very sought after brakes.. Not the typical 39-41 or 42-48 lockheed style ford brakes. Total score!

 

Awesome, thanks for the info Pineapple!

 

I need me a zip code open car ….. real bad

 

About 10 hours in the truck, all for the chance to learn more about the Tamarco Hal. It was definitely worth it, Terry was a wealth of knowledge!

 

If you guys were rebuilding a 39 transmission to go behind a mildly hopped up A banger (6.5 head, Mallory dist., downdraft with single 2 barrel) would you use the stock 39 gears? Or build it with Lincoln gears? Would the Lincoln gears even be worth it on a banger?

Running 7.00 x 16 tires in the rear with a stock rear end.

 

I would go with the 39 gear set with the 28 tooth cluster. That's if your rear is the 3.78 one. That's what I had in my roadster and I had no complaints.

 

I have a Volvo M40 gearbox behind my 4Banger, 4 gears synchro.
Just a thought.
Greetings Harald

 

Zephyrs are nice for the close ratios but you might want a quickchange rear to get the right final drive for city or highway driving. I had this setup until recently, I broke the zephyr gears (repop gears, lesson learned, only buy originals) I now have 28 tooth ford gears in there. Works good just a bigger drop between gears.

 

Just helped a friend install a blown flathead in a 37 with a 39 box and a Columbia rear end. We have on the bench a 37 Cad-Lasalle that will eventually replace the 39 Ford. No tail shaft will be used although we have the short Olds tail shaft. He also has a Halibrand adaptor but wants to stick with the early flathead. Am in the process of making the front adaptor plate and will adapt the rear mount to keep the closed driveshaft. This is all early hot rodding, but the question is, what will keep the Columbia together? Just a rhetorical question, but the same applies to the Zephyr and the Columbia.
Warren

 

I can't remember the company, but they make some upgrades for the Columbia. I have a friend with a 331 hemi in front of one and it's held up fine. The car was built by his dad like that back in '55 and he wanted to keep the rearend.

 

Tremendous winds this past week, but got a killer sunset tonight!

 

That truck looks so cool. Are those the brewster caps on 35 wires? Look awesome.

 

They're covers made by Kevin Lee, I've had them forever. I've run them on everything with '35 type wires. They're awesome with whitewalls!

 

I'm looking to feature some photos or video of a Hal SOHC to wrap up my video on Harry Hosterman. Does anyone know of someone who owns one? Thank you, guys!!

 

Wicked cool pic Retson! Neat to see the secondary intake manifold over the plugs being used. Wonder if they used the intake manifold on the other side too…?

 

Here are pictures of mine.

 

What supports the cam? Do you have those parts? How do you adjust the valve lash?

 

The water pump on the sprinter engine appears to be from a Model T. I was not aware that these heads had an 'extra' intake port on the driver side. I know the Morton and Brett A heads had intake ports on both sides but......

 

I've decided to just drive my car as much as humanly possible this winter, and finish up the OHV conversion once the temps climb back up next spring.

In that spirit, if anyone finds themselves in Sin City next weekend, I've been trying to get something HAMB-related together. Guaranteed to be at least one car there...

 

More HAL SOHC info.

 

Well, yeah, I'd give $135.00 for one of those set-ups. You know, as long as it was new.

 

$135 was probably 13 1/2 weeks pay at that time.

 

https://www.rasmussenmortuary.com/obituaries/melvin-atkinson

Wayne Atkinson has left us

 

Probably longer than that.
"The Model A was available in four standard colors, but not black. Prices ranged from $385 for a roadster to $570 for the top-of-the-line Fordor."
So, almost half the cost of a new car.

 

I`m still here , planning race meetings for the four banger coupe next year.................picked up what could be the oldest AA truck in the UK(pre April 1928 going by the chassis archaeology)wooden cab so it must have been ordered as a driver chassis, continuously registered in the UK since 1928!!!!!!!!!.I dunno what to do with it but it had to be bought lol