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Hot Rods Script writers don’t know how to research?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fortunateson, Jan 7, 2025.

  1. ChassisResearchKid
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    So when exactly do you think 327's came out?
     
  2. Eh ...it technically took place in the 63 model year. So 327s had been out a year. With as crafty as rodders were plenty of time to have the engine fall into their hands
     
  3. How is 1965 Impala in 1963, Goodfallas.

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  4. This one really drives me nuts as Fonda is my home track!

    Fonda Speedway in "Heart Like a Wheel" 1983

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    Fonda looks nothing like that and was NASCAR drags not NHRA!

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    Fonda today the red arrows are the drag strip!
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  5. Rickybop
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    Just a point of interest.
    For the city boys. LOL
    You can definitely squeal your tires on a dirt road.
    - Elmerbop
     
  6. seabeecmc
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  7. Tow Truck Tom
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    I'll say that a lot gets past me, ( indifference ) but the stuff below always pulls me up in my seat.

    Always tell my wife, Nah

    The movie "The Sting" an early '30s sedan takes off the with roar of a V8
    My favorite tho' are starters, when any other brand gets cranked up by a gear reduction Mopar.
    And the supposed dead battery car using a 6 volt Ford sound.
     
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  8. Speed Gems
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    I know the 327 came out in '62 but it would've been hard to get a new engine on a teenager's budget. :D
     
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  9. X-cpe
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    27 years of teaching high school. I can guarantee you that teen-age budgets run the same range as any other age group.
     
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  10. Tow Truck Tom
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    Fast cars crash hard. You know how I know. ;)
     
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  11. The 327 was available in the 1962 model year, new model year would have started in September or October of 1961.

    Amercian Graffiti take place in late Summer early Fall of 1962 it is feasible that someone could have pulled a 327 out of a totaled car.

    I know of a few cases where long blocks that had been warrantied (which were supposed to be scraped) found their way to machine shops and into racecars!

    There were even guys locally who had 327 Chevys for the start of the 1962 race season.

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  12. dan c
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    we all did that in my outfit. the one thing they always get wrong is not adjusting the "web" belt right, so there's 6 or 8 inches of belt hanging out of the buckle. YER OUTA UNIFORM!!!
     
  13. DDDenny
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    More useless trivia.
    Streets of San Francisco, Ford LTD detectives car, sound insert from a four speed car with someone rowing the gears.
     
  14. F-head
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    Never heard of a script writer involved in choosing the props/vehicles during production. All that would be chosen by the art department and art director. If you have a beef blame the art director, unless mabee its a talking car
     
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  15. He supposedly inherited the Vette and 62 Vettes came from the factory with 327's.
     
  16. Actually that's the history of how my 57 283 wound up in a 55 Chevy early fall of 57. Guy that owned the 55 worked as a dealer mechanic at a Chevy dealership. 57 came in with a busted piston and a couple bad valves. He pulled a switcheroo with the 55 265 and the warranteed out 57 283 and fixed the damage and stuck it in the 55 passing it off as stock. No one knew till I got the engine in 2020 a couple years after the 55 got a me too engine swap
     
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  17. EDMAR'S GARAGE
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    "I got a sixty-nine Chevy with a 396
    Fuelie heads..." REALLY??? With these lyrics starting off the song "Racing in the Streets," Bruce Springsteen lost his street cred with me. Since the 396 is a big block, and the "fuelie heads" were a small block item, it would take one hell of an adapter to make this work. Sing what you know, Bruce.
     
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  18. HEATHEN
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    Yeah, my cousin and I always laughed at that, and decided that one of his friends worked third shift in a factory with access to lathes and mills, and made him some adapter plates.
     
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  19. EDMAR'S GARAGE
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    Yeah, that was way before 3D printers.
     
  20. MAD MIKE
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    As much as I try to live(die?) by this, there are just lazy mistakes that take me out of a movie/show.

    In Iron Giant, the junkyard has a wrecked '59 Caddy, movie takes place in '57. This is pretty common overall with the '59 Cad in '57 time frame shows. Figure its just everyone thinks '57 = bigass vertical fins.

    Bah!

    Stranger Things starts off in ~1983, facility alarms go off and spec ops show up in Humvees(85/86).
    Mustang with 90s Centerline wheels.
    There are more but it screws up the tineline, especially since each season is a year or more apart but vehicles, which are fairly decent costars, tend to be 2+years newer. I wont get into the bicycles :p.

    Perry Mason(HBO) wasn't bad, think it took place in early 30's. There was the glaring replica Auburn(?) boattail with wide white wall radial 15s driven by the Lebanese couple. I would have allowed an 810/812 before those white walls*shiver*. I wouldn't be surprised if the 'Auburn' was some kind of social commentary.
    But damnit, RDJ was an executive producer, car guy, and his mom was a Ford(!).

    Sometimes it can even be as simple as an actor that stuffs their face in for a cameo. Jimmy(I can't not giggle, nor be bothered to learn stick) Fallon ruins probably the best episode in Band of Brothers(Crossroads). Already love/admire E-company there's ~5 mins left in the episode the comradere, and that jackass shows up, breaking the moment and throwing you back onto your couch... takes me out of the episode.
    Dick.
    I threw my shoe at the TV for that one.
    Didn't even know I was Iraqi

    That's just laziness.
    When headrests get removed from late models so we have a better view of the actors... no that's just crappy camera angle and lazy acting,
    MOVE THE RIG!!!
    As a back seat passengers in an engrossing discussion, we've all leaned forward at some point.

    Hell, I've seen that so many times in the real world I don't even recognize that kinda nonsense in TV shows/movies. Along with excess pumping of the pedal to get any and all vehicles to start.
    Dude, it's a Prius... just stop.

    Still waiting for exhaust/shift effects for electric cars in movies/shows to appear :p

    Also, get off my lawn.:D
     
  21. DDDenny
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    Does this short line sound familiar to anyone, heard it recently but can't remember what it was from, a song I think..........."shackled up GTO".
    I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!
     
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  22. jaracer
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    I don't remember the name of the movie, but the lead actor drove a 57 Desoto through most of the movie. At the end he wrecks it, but the car he wrecks is a 57 Plymouth the same color combination. I was watching it with family and commented that the wrecked car wasn't the same car. My sister-in-law told me I was full of it and how could I tell. We finally stopped a couple of frames and while the definition wasn't good enough to read the make on the hood, it was obvious that one car had a 6 letter name and the second car had an 8 letter name.
     
  23. HEATHEN
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    Never heard that one, but I recall a Joe Walsh song where he made a reference to going for a cruise in his "short block Chevy"; I doubt that he was going to cruise very far with no heads or intake manifold.
     
  24. Speed Gems
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    It's at 1:25 in the song. I didn't know if that was some kind of southern expression for a car that was tamed down for the street or what?
     
  25. 51504bat
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    Little Deuce Coupe released in 1963:

    She's got a competition clutch with four on the floor
    And she purrs like a kitten 'til the lake pipes roar


    I was still into mini bikes and go karts in 1963 but I seriously doubt there were very many hot rods with flatheads and four speeds. A '39 Ford 3 speed box or maybe a LaSalle but not a 4 speed. But maybe I'm wrong.
     
  26. HEATHEN
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    At least that one was technically possible.
     
  27. tjm73
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    Ya gotta let this minutia go and just enjoy the greater story. The mid 50' Chevy with polished torque thrust wheels didn't effect the rest of the Johnny Cash Walk the Line biopic. Was like a beacon when I saw it, but didn't change the story at all.
     
  28. DDDenny
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    That's it and man, I really like that song, Ronnie Dunn is as good a singer as anyone in the music business regardless of the genre!
    I don't know how I forgot that so soon, it was "just the other day", just turned 70, that's my only excuse.
    Thanks for that, I just played it through twice.
     
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  29. jnaki
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    Hello,

    As our society and job markets have advanced a whole lot since those early films. Yes, they researched locally in their own area and location wise, that was it. As far as parts for hot rods or old cars, if it was in the general public, then it was shown to draw folks into the films showings. The staff and budgets were limited as they are fully advanced today.

    Ever stay long enough to read the staff, at the end of the movie to give credits to everyone? From several listings of staff and camera people, the list is so long as to take up minutes that seem like hours to follow the listing of movie making staff. From the writers to the director to the zillion folks that make up the whole production scene.

    So, now, the writers have staff to search and they have location experts to find the spot for the shots. The production designers find the need and send out the folks to follow up on what is needed at specific spots.

    The once small staff is now a giant long list of participants we all skip over at the end list of the movies. Unless, of course, we know someone on the staff and get a kick out of seeing them listed as “assistant to the driver of the star’s hair dresser in location only shots…” Ha!

    Jnaki

    Yes, it is complicated and those that have seen recent movies are amazed that period cars of the 50s are still available. But, the rental companies have a stock pile of old cars and vehicles for the industry. If not, then they rent out from other sources. Still, the coordination is the production designer’s responsibility.

    The end result, although it is showing old or even new cars, it is a fantasy industry and so far, have done a great job of entertaining all of us through movies and photographs. YRMV

    Note:

    Here are some of the best shows that have shown a lot of 50s-60s cars and fit the scenes quite well.

    With a premise of laughter, families and situations in old 50s scenarios, one would think that show, “Marvelous Mrs. Maisel” would be a bore. Nothing further from the actual fun time of 5 seasons and old cars galore, including a 50s drag race location and racing.
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    For us, it was a season per year and it was a regular show, as part of our viewing when it was shown as first run. But, if you missed it each season, you are now in for a treat as a consecutive watching tv streaming show.
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    Yes, subscriptions are a part of a channel with top quality shows and movies all without commercials. But, at least, one can watch them without interruptions of advertised stuff we care nothing about.
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    Note 2:

    One other show with so many different 50s cars was a show called “Lessons In Chemistry.” It shows cars as part of the whole community and in living color, that puts one right in the middle of the timeline. The So Cal background is set up perfectly to depict the time of the events. The cars are a pure joy. So, was the series… But, it should have continued for a second season or longer, but sadly, it ended after one season.
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    The final show that we have watched recently, is “Daisy Jones and The Six.” A series about a rock group growing up and struggling with life, as they lived it through a rock music scenario. Los Angeles canyon living, parties, tours and concerts all played a big part. But the cars of the movie are the ones a lot of people can associate with, along with the timeline of the whole show. It could have lasted a couple of more seasons with the character lines, but, it too lasted one season.
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  30. Dooley
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    Maisel was good, Mad Men was really good.

    there is a scene in 1965 where they are at a Playboy Club late summer, I think. On the table was an orange playboy ashtray. My father spent his 21st birthday at the playboy club in Atlanta in April the same year. and I have that exact ashtray.
     

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