As If You Didn't Hate The LS Enough Already...

This is the video that I learned about the tablet set up. He also lists the cables needed to connect everything.

 

Thank you. Getting ready to do this. I was going to buy the pro dash.

 

My biggest problem with LS engines are twofold. 1) They are ugly in an old car. They are still ugly when you cover them up with all sorts of covers and shields. It just don't look right. 2) They are now belly button engines. Everybody's got one. If you want your newly built old car to stand out, don't put an LS in it.

If I ever replace the SBC 350 in my square body pickup, I may use an LS but I am never going to put one in my old cars. YMMV.

 

How about a 6?

 

I was looking into the 4-5-6 cylinder Atlas series engines...they're neat, but have some problems.

 

If they are anywhere close to a 2JZ, they certainly are worth a closer look. Don’t know what the Atlas series engines are going for, but probably quite reasonable. Did some of the Checkers come with 6’s or were they all SBC’s?
The White Goose Bar Bonneville roadster sure hauls ass with the 2JZ!

 

My checker has a 250 six. it's a dog!

 

But you are going to remedy that in the near future!

 

My first '69 Camaro had the 250 with a 3-speed manual...

 

Not that ugly... my parts chaser very mild motor..5.3.. 11s in the quarter try that with your old school factory 289 302 351w .again very mild motor and simple too as I run carb. I'll take the performance over the arguments of not using a ls you are pushing.. notice no covers etc. Take care

 

An early 289 with the right dress up parts has some class to it. Something an ls can never achieve. I see you have a 289 sticker on the air cleaner, musta fooled a lot of Ford guys with that clever move.

 

Lol you know it funny the vast vast majority of people including ford guys don't pick up on. I have sat and listened to a ton of old guys tell the younger one with them " yep had one just like it back in the day. 289 best engine ever." I have posted it in numerous ford in a ford only forums and only one guy has pointed it out. The rest all thumbs up and positive comments. Not as many experts out their as one thinks there are. That said throw a factory small block ford in your favorite ride and run 11s . Good luck. This is a mild motor with factory heads etc.... they make power. They make way more power with factory heads crank rods etc when you pour the boost to them. ( mine is not boosted) try that with any factory gm or ford old school motors. You be picking up parts. Some like performance and looks. Others like looks. Its a free country. Have fun. Cheers

 

The only time smallblock Ford guys ever get close enough to see what an LS engine looks like is when they are parked, maybe at a rod run.

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Entertaining thread. @ekimneirbo 's signature line about sums up this thread for me:
It takes considerable knowledge to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

 

Alright, Anthony. Ya got me ! What is that?

Ben

 

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v16 LS

 

That would look good in the wifes 56..........

Seriously though, whats it going in? Sure has a lot of motor mount holes

 

The pic came from a shop building some kind of large speedster

 

A lot of newer LS engines that have the feature where they drop cylinders on the freeway when there's not much load have had lifter failures. And since the LS design is stupid you have to pull the heads to change lifters! I've got three friends with new Chevy trucks less than a year old that had to have lifters replaced under warranty! One of them said the mechanic who did the work took him aside and told him if he bought an aftermarket chip that plugs into the OBD port it eliminates the dropping cylinders and he'd never lose lifters again.
I contemplated doing a LS swap in my old 1969 Suburban whenever my 350 dies, but I think I'll probably just rebuild the 350 as it's cheaper and I'm too old to learn the LS install.

 

^That car was racing at Sick Week

 

Interesting and informative thread.
Aaaaannnnnd... here's a little sumthin' for the anti-LS guys



There are racers at Drag Week that display those types of sentiments too.


Different strokes.

 

Don't mind me fellas.... I'm just agreeing with those ^^^^ guys.....

 

Think about what you guys are saying. The LS is a proven motor based as a new generation of a smallblock Chevy. If GM continued to rely on the performance capabilities of a 70 year old design, they would not be competitive in todays high horsepower competition. Look at the new Corvettes capabilities, and you can just bet that 99% of us don't want to call one out at a red lite..........even with some dufus driving it. The ZR1 has 1,064 hp, 2.3 sec 0-60, 9.6 sec 1/4 mile and 233 mph top speed. All that with power steering and air conditioning too. Now most of us can't afford a ZR1 but we can easily build a streetable 11 second car on a budget with an LS core. The head design of a smallblock is archaic with siamesed ports of different lengths and valves on a 23 degree angle that isn't nearly as efficient as the more vertical LS valves. Take your typical mild street engine build and put comparable components into each build. Not talking about high dollar stuff but a high $$ build would have the same result. Anyway some ported stock oem heads with upgraded valves and springs, and you can even throw in a roller cam for the smallblock.....the LS already uses one. You can use your carburetor and the LS will use its OEM injection .......both can be modified with larger carbs or throttle bodies. You can upgrade your ignition, while the LS can just stick with its factory stuff. When all is said and done, the LS will leave you in the dust and get better gas mileage while doing it. I have a lot of respect for the smallblock Chevy.......there are 3 cores sitting in my shed and a complete running 350 Corvette parts car under the lean to. Inside my shop, there are two complete LS 6.0s sitting on stands, an LS3 crate motor in an S-10 (480+hp stock), and new LS3 and LS7 aluminum blocks sitting on a shelf. I'm not demeaning the smallblock, it has served us well.......but I'm not blind to the fact that its grown long in the tooth just like many of us, and the new generation is worthy of the same respect......its is almost 30 years old and has lots oif its own history. Burying your head in the sand won't make it go away...........



www.chevrolet.com/performance/corvette/zr1?msockid=28cbcedde188652b3752dda0e0c7641b

tuningpro.co/chevy-ls-vs-lt-engine-guide/

 

but how many LS powered hot rods are you driving around now?

 

The S10 is about 90% complete . It didn't get completely finished because I bought a 56 Chevy truck and my son decided we would give that a priority.......... We got it well along the way and he had to have an operation and is on disability seeing how thats gonna work out. Truck is at his shop 50 miles away. In the mean time I also acquired a 49 Chevy pickup that I started fooling with. And with all of that going on.........I decided it was now or never if I ever was going to build my dream car.....a 32 Ford. The S-10 is creeping toward the finish line as I jump between projects. So far the LS isn't whats holding me up, it's my anal proclivity for getting distracted by other minor projects making tools or expanding my shop, or fixing the ditch out front, or whatever. Meanwhile, I drive my 2000 Chevy Silverado with its LS engine as my daily driver. Probably mid summer the S10 may take life as I bounce between projects. Here are some pictures of the 6x20 ft sheet of steel I hauled home to make another work table in my shop. I already built the table years ago and it had a 4' x20 Wooden top for an aircraft jig. By putting the steel on it, I can use it to build the 32 mostly at waist height. Now I'm gathering parts to extend the overhead crane setup so that I have a way to lift the 32 onto the table and build the frame. Yep, I wish the S10 was done, oughta be a nice driver when done. When my son gets better he can finish the 56 at his place..........and I'll be working on the 49 and the 32 side by side. The 32 will be Cadillac powered (with fuel injection and maybe an 8-71 BDS blower and Tremec 6 speed) while the 49 pickup will be either Cadillac or LS powered. I have already installed Corvette suspension in front and a 4 link 9" in the rear. When you get old, these things seem to take longer. So the short answer is "None". But when I do get them done, they will be built the way that I dreamed they would be, so just gotta be patient.






Then I bought a second LS 6.0 and wanted a stand that I could start up and run EFI engines. I have one that I keep a 500 Cad/Carb engine on. Just fired it up the other day. But when I build the Cad with EFI/Blower, or one of the LS engines, I need a slightly different set up...........so I got distracted again......




Got this far and got distracted again, trying to get back on it and the S10 . It will hold the Chevy V8s and the BOP (&Cad) engines. Two mounting holes so I can put it high for assembling and low for storage and test runs.



Anyway, thats the kind of guy I am. When I get a new idea I have to work on it and as other ideas pop up, I jump back and forth. I gave up trying to change and as Bobby Knight once said, I just lay back and enjoy it. I quit trying to work on only one thing at a time and just pick what I feel like doing on that day. I wish I had a nickle for every time I have gone out to the shop to work on a particular job and at the end of the day I never even touched it.......even though I spent the whole day working in the shop. Life is good, and I have a lot of toys to amuse myself with.


Maybe I need to get off this darn computer..............

 

I have a 6.0 in pieces, but I did drive my 327 powered Corvette around today. And I drive the 325 powered late model Tahoe a bit, too. But no LS powered hot rods yet....seems to be a common problem!

 

You know the old saying, Anything worth doing is worth doing well.............You will get there, and you will love it when you do. You do realize that "Squirrel" already has an L and an S in it..........