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Alcoa Ansen domed pistons for a '56 265 engine

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by David Neese, Feb 18, 2025.

  1. David Neese
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    David Neese

    I have a set of pistons that are what the title says. There is a number 40 cast in the inside bottom of them. How do I know if that's forty over or what does it mean?
     
  2. Fordors
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    Stock bore 3.750 + .040 = 3.790 - a few .001’s for clearance.
    Measure them 90* to the pin bore and below the ring lands.

    Pictures would be nice, it won’t help with the size, we just like to see them.
     
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  3. David Neese
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    David Neese

    upload_2025-2-19_19-16-1.png
    Here is a pic of them
     
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  4. Fordors
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    Alcoa forged the blanks and Ansen did the machining on them. Looking at them I suspect they are about 12-1 compression, maybe even a bit higher. Not a lot of demand (I’d say less than zero) for 12-1 265 pistons but cleaned up they would make cool garage art.
     
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  5. David Neese
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    I'm actually going to use them in my 265 and run E85 with them.
     
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  6. Fordors
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    Wow, didn’t see that coming. Sounds like an interesting project, keep us informed.
     
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  7. David Neese
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    Yeah I'm using them along with a Comp Cams 285B-6 solid lifter cam.
     
  8. David Neese
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    Do you have any idea what size rings these make take as in 1/16", 1/16" & 3/16" or???
     
  9. Fordors
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    Chevrolet originally used 5/64 and 3/16 but I don’t know what Ansen machined their pistons for. They’re most likely 5/64 but you can measure with a decent ruler to make sure.
     
  10. Deuces
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    I'd use Jo-blocks or feeler gauges.....
     
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  11. chicken
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    That should stir your soul when it idles! That cam is gonna be rowdy in a 265. ;):cool:
     
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  12. David Neese
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    I'll have my engine guy check them for me.
     
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  13. David Neese
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    David Neese

    Yes sir it'll sure hit pretty hard. I originally bought it for a 283 I was gonna build for my '55 but the block turned out to not be good so I got the 265.
     
  14. chicken
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    Looking at those pistons I'd guess the rings are 1/16 1/16 3/16. Pretty common back then.
     
  15. David Neese
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    David Neese

    That's what I was thinking also but someone said they could be 5/64", 5/64", & 3/16".
     
  16. chicken
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    And they could be since that's a popular option,but I think it looks like the two upper rings are thinner than 5/64.
     
  17. Dick Stevens
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    And the smart thing to do is measure them so he gets the right rings instead of going by what you or anyone else thinks they look like.
     
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  18. Fordors
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    They could be 1/16 but I think 5/64 was still pretty common in that era. I believe it wasn’t until the ‘70’s when race pistons started using 1/16 compression rings and Chevy was still using 5/64 into the 1970’s.
     
  19. David Neese
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    David Neese

    I'm not just gonna buy any ring set until I know what they are. I appreciate the reply.
     
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  20. David Neese
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    I have the original pistons from my engine. I will pull one of the rings off of one of them and check thwir fit.
     
  21. chicken
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    Well, obviously. o_O
     
  22. Fordors
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    The point of my comments is that a ring set for a
    3.750 +.040 bore could be hard to find. Chevrolet used 5/64 compression rings on the early SBC’s but the suggestion was made that Ansen may have machined their pistons for 1/16. I believe it was later that 1/16 came into use and if I understand your comment you want to check the original rings from your 265. You can take a top ring off one of the original pistons and use it as a gauge to verify what ring set will fit your Ansen pistons.
    You don’t want to buy a scarce HTF ring set that won’t work with your forged pistons.
     
  23. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Is Egge still in business????...
    They might have ring sets for the 265 +.040" pistons....
     

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