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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by DDDenny, Jul 13, 2025.

  1. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
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    49ratfink
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    from California

    I can tell you from experience that all the fun goes away fast when your daily driver is a six cylinder, non synchro 3 speed column shift and you drive 50 miles a day in S.F. Bay Area stop and go commute traffic. drove my 61 Dodge for a couple years as my only running car back when I was young and adventurous.
    my next 2 cars were 4 speed and 5 speed. much better. finally in my old age my regular car is an automatic.
     
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  3. Scott079
    Joined: Jul 12, 2024
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    Scott079
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    from Canada

    I wanted to go manual in my Durant, but prices around here are stupid. A factory T5 runs $1200 Canadian, most are more and still need rebuilds
     
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  4. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
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    Tow Truck Tom
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    from Clayton DE

    I had an off topic G20 van, I used an M-22 Muncie with forward gears hooked to the column. Reverse I stuck little lever under the seat.
    The gears set was not handy with a heavy load.
    Parking in town was hectic with the dive back and forth, to go back and forth.
    But empty, on the Boulevard, with the 370 rear it shined light to light
    The junkyard find for a 4 speed column shift linkage, would be a '60s Mercedes
     
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  5. junkyardgenius
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
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    from Kernow

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  6. I used 1-4 on the column.

    For reverse, I'd put the column in neutral, and push in the Throttle knob that was connected to a 4' shift cable that ran out the firewall through the stock Throttle hole and down to a cable stop on the top of the transmission and connected to the Reverse lever. When it was parked, I always left it in reverse so if anyone looked in the car, they just saw stock knobs in their correct position.
     
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  7. Sharpone
    Joined: Jul 25, 2022
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    Sharpone
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    @Tow Truck Tom and @bchrismer loving the four on the tree idea, definitely against the grain. I suppose you guys had threes on the floor also he he ha ha.
    Was there any factory 3 on the floor cars, never saw one. Tow Truck Tom I’ll bet that van surprised a few people.
    Dan
     
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  8. patsurf
    Joined: Jan 18, 2018
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    patsurf

    first that comes to mind was our 67 mustang--prob plenty of others.but that popped first....
     
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  9. Sharpone
    Joined: Jul 25, 2022
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    Thanks, I remember 3 on floors but the one I remember were converted from column.
    Dan
     
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  10. MCjim
    Joined: Jun 4, 2006
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    from soCal

    My '64 GTO had a non synchro 3 speed with the factory floor shift.
     
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  11. Sharpone
    Joined: Jul 25, 2022
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    Sharpone
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    I guess I forgot about all the older cars 1930s etc with 3 on floor, maybe I saw some newer 1950s 60s cars with factory 3 on the floor but just don’t remember them.
    Dan
     
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  12. Ford never installed column shift in any Mustang (or Cougars that were Mustang-based) regardless of engine or transmission choice. The 'base' three-speed cars are rare, but I've seen more than a few.

    Some early GTOs and 442s ('65-68 ?) if ordered with the base three-speed got the Ford full-syncro toploader trans with a floor shift. I've heard rumors this was also true on the Buick GS cars, but I've never seen one.

    The 'four on the column' conversions I've seen have nearly been all Fords as they had arguably the best column linkage of most '50s/early 60s cars (all steel construction, no die-cast bits). If you had an overdrive car, the OD cable could be re-tasked to operate reverse. If I'm not mistaken, that's what Jeff Norwell did on one of his '57s.
     
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  13. nunattax
    Joined: Jan 10, 2011
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    it does not matter.the main thing is that it goes down the road.
     
  14. 2OLD2FAST
    Joined: Feb 3, 2010
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    2OLD2FAST
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    from illinois

    And it makes you happy !
     
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  15. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
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    Tow Truck Tom
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    from Clayton DE

    When I did the swap I asked a work buddy to take a ride without saying why.
    He wasn't paying attention at the one-two shift, he couldn't imagine what was happening,
    when we passed 35mph with the lever at the bottom.
    2:20 1st & 3:70 rear, was balky when full of freight (paper and fabric)
    As I said earlier when empty, on 'The Boulevard' I stunned a few hot shots.

    Factory 3 on the floor came with a '61 Dodge Lancer behind the slant six engine.
    I picked one up for a song. It became a group possession. If / when any one of my greaser buddies needed wheels it went on long term loan several times.
    In its earlier life the rear diff had run dry. It stayed together, but sang to you all day long and into the night. My ex-soon to be 1st wife,;) tried to climb into the trunk of a '55 Chevy one night.
    ;)
    I became the second owner of a '64 F-85 convert. 4 bbl, 10 and a 1/4 comp, 330 cube
    It was some special optioned model I can't recall the model.
    The suspension was heavy duty.
    The non-power steering had a quick-ratio box.
    Three speed first gear was non-synchro, with factory floor stick.
    Got it replaced with Hurst Synchro-loc.
    When I handed it over to the new owner both the rear and trans had been grenaded and up-graded.

     
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  16. Sharpone
    Joined: Jul 25, 2022
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    IMG_3330.jpeg IMG_3328.jpeg I’ll roll the dice and go with Two
    Dan
     
  17. Primered Forever
    Joined: Jul 7, 2008
    Posts: 991

    Primered Forever
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    from Joplin,MO

    I built the Model A in my avatar with 3 pedals. The older I get it may get an automatic one day!
     
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  18. 2devilles
    Joined: Jul 16, 2021
    Posts: 667

    2devilles
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    Slow, low down cruisers, kustoms, and big barges: 2 pedals.
    Semi-fast cars, pickup trucks: 3 pedals.
    Really fast cars: 2 pedals.
     
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  19. Smrtmike
    Joined: Nov 11, 2018
    Posts: 20

    Smrtmike

    Daily Driver two pedals, weekender three pedals. I will have two in my Henry J.
     
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