Event Coverage LLOYDFEST III.... SEPTEMBER 5TH-7TH 2025

Man! The time and money we put into these things, just to get bit in the ass AGAIN! Damn junk!

 

Damn Brother!

Can't say anything other than that really sucks. Hopefully sometime soon our "Car Luck" will turn around. We are all pulling for ya!

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

I don't remember what it was. Jamie the machinist told me, but it's been a couple of years. It didn't have any affect on the erson cam, it was a much smaller profile. I ordered a 236@ .050, 472 lift. Roll the dice again. It'll work out, sooner or later lmao! I foresee me switching to LS engines soon

 

I did everything perfect this time! Lol... but it'll be alright. Shit will be in on Wednesday, gonna have the car hauled out to the shop tmrw or Wednesday morning. Can't really break a cam in here in my yard... neighbors

 

No LS!!

 

That's my initials though, it must be trying to tell me something

 

Oh The Humanity!!! Oh, wait, LS as in LS-5, LS-6, LS-7, that would be ok.

 

Andy is right, and LS-6 would do!

 

I have an Advance Design Front Bumper to sell for reasonable offer (whatever that is). Good condition, in primer. If I don't hear from anyone I won't bring it as I'm travelling and camping in a small ot wagon.

 

No, that was an erson. The first cam was a Howard's, it ate a lifter, put the erson in it and all was good, but i wanted the Howard's profile back in it. Bad idea I guess lol.

 

That sucks man. 0.472 lift isn’t crazy shouldn’t be eating lifters. How much lift can you go before you reach coil bind?
I agree with Mark about Isky cam and lifters, Crower sells a cam saver lifter made by Johnson. A little more$$$s but I think you get good shit. Didn’t Comp buy Luaniti ? Comp cams used to be great, don’t know what happened but a lot of people cuss them now a days.
Dan

 

The Edelbrock Group owns Lunati now. I believe they have Comp as well.

 

No. Just moved the power range down. Sounded like shit.

 

472 lift is the cam that's coming Wednesday. This cam was 507 lift. Coil bind is over 550.

 

Sorry this happened to you again Big Daddy. These days we have to be checking the lifter faces for the proper crown and the cams for proper lobe taper. This is easy to do. Even the top brand name lifters have proven to be crap. Including the cam saver shit. The geometry has to be right and is critical. Break in your cams with just the outer springs. Too much spring pressure on break in is a killer. Check for coil bind and retainer interference too. Pretty damn sure Howards cams are not the problem here. Probably just the re-boxed lifters. We need to stop pretending everything should be good because it's not!

 

can you explain what keeps spring pressure from destroying the lifter and lobe after you go through the process of pulling springs, break in, and reinstalling springs?

 

my mother said to ask what to bring for food, charcoal/propane for fuel, etc... because it skipped my mind on what exactly to bring.

since we are closing in on the last week!

 

Everything is provided while you’re at the park. Hamburgers, hotdogs, chips, drinks, etc.

 

As you left the Drive-In Theater last night one of the guys who was standing near us said it sounded like you had a flat lobe. Guess he wasn't too far off.

 

Plenty of good oil on the lobes. Personally, I won't use a standard flat tappet lifter anymore. Everything gets lifters with the oiling holes on the bottom.

 

3 of em.

 

But do you get what I'm saying? If the lifters can't handle a certain seat pressure, nothing is gonna change that. Thought about switching to beehive springs.

 

Same with the springs on the Blue Print heads I bought.

I have that same cam & lifters (already in the car when I got it). When I pulled the tunnel ram to change the heads, one of the lifters was missing a piddle valve retaining clip, probably not an issue as long as the pushrod was holding the valve in place, but you gotta wonder did the forget to put it in or did it come out.

Have to thank Dad for being a packrat/hoarder. There is at least one coffee can with a couple dozen GM factory lifters from the 70's upstairs that mostly have a couple hundred miles or less on them. Back then if a pickup was still in warrantee & the engine had a problem they just threw a Targetmaster in it & Dad would bring home the whole engine or at least a lot of the parts.

So many folks are having these issues with lifters in the last decade+ that I am not sure if I wouldn't just put a roller in anything I build going forward.

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

I was pissed off and going through summits selection of retro roller cams lol. $1300 average, then I needed a compatible timing cover with a wear plate, a cam button, a fuel pump pushrod, a compatible gear for my distributor...... I decided I'd go with a smaller profile. Hot rodding is fun..... and cheap!

 

Well, the way I understand it, before break in the lifter faces and cam lobes are not perfectly matched. The extreme pressure loading can be distributed over a reduced and/or uneven surface area. The oil and its anti wear additives along with their ability to withstand a given amount of extreme pressure loading are your only protection against failure during the break in process. After break in (wear in) the surfaces are more perfectly matched and the extreme pressure loading is distributed more evenly and across the maximum (i.e. greater) available area. The increased area is then able to withstand more load from the additional spring pressure as long as it is not excessive. The geometry greatly affects the available load carrying area. Even the size of the chamfer on a lifter face can affect the load carrying capability.

That was a mouth full. Now where's my beer

 

What's your opinion on initial lubrication on the lobes & lifter faces? Do you agree that there has to be a certain amount of friction between the 2 surfaces to accomplish the rotation of the lifter? You'd think that with all of the zinc and phosphorus and oil on the mating surfaces, along with fire up and 2500rpm, that you'd promote slippage, and premature wear on those surfaces. Seems that you would want a certain amount of drag to ensure surface mating. My head hurts from thinking about it lol...

 

I'll say this, I ordered a tube of moroso moly lube. I'm going back old school, the way i did it for years. And I'll admit that I didn't check these lifters on glass. That's my fault.

 

good! was just making sure for logistics sake.