Event Coverage LLOYDFEST III.... SEPTEMBER 5TH-7TH 2025

Lloyd has a way of taking care of all your needs. Well; ALMOST all of them.

 

You know for what lifters cost these days they should be right. I agree that a person should check them. I’ve always ran the break in procedure for the cam but I remember a lot of guys didn’t and didn’t have problems. One thing I do is check for lifter rotation. I mark each lifter with finger mail polish clocked in the same position and then while degreeing the cam I watch for rotation. They’ve always rotated for me but my understanding is that a tight or loose lifter bore can hinder rotation.
Dan

 

IMO, this is the Ace in the Hole. A good Moly based grease like the Moroso or Isky Rev Lube or, Hell, even a tube of Extreme pressure, Moly based grease (the black, sticky shit) from your favorite Tractor Supply store is better than what most places recommend or supply.

 

I'm with ya. I was meticulous on this last install. I thought everything was good to go. Who knows. Rolling the dice these days. Do you think that these cam companies are doing quality tests? I know that they buy lifters from somebody else and put their name on them. You'd think they'd wanna know how it's working. I laughed about it for years, never had an issue, but it's getting a little stupid now. Honestly I knew better. I should have never used those lifters in the first place.

 

Yes sir. If you think about that metal to metal contact, valve springs fighting the rotation, topped with starting the engine and going straight to 2500 rpm, it doesn't take much of a fuck up to turn that cam lobe into a grinder. I'm going back to the old way. We'll see what happens, blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then

 

Flat tappet failures have driven a lot of people to buy roller cams, most of those folks haven't heard of roller lifter failures, but they happen. And when they do, it's expensive as hell. Flat tappet cams have worked for years, I think it's come down to metallurgy. If i was the owner of a big name cam grinder that was outsourcing my lifters, you can bet I'd be performing quality assurance. Sometimes I wonder if they're just pushing their $1000 roller lifters.......

 

This and also that the lifters rotate easily in the bores.

 

Anyways, back to Lloydfest III, I'm excited and looking forward to seeing everybody that's coming! Got a good number of 3rd year folks coming! That's impressive! See everybody soon!

 

I’ve seen and repaired more than my fair share of roller lifter failures……..

 

One more day at work, then on the road!!!!

 

Certainly you need a quality break in lube during initial cranking before oil pressure is built and quality oil with a minimum amount (1200ppm) of ZDDP. Its the cam lobe taper and radius on the lifter face that makes the lifters rotate. This also dictates the amount of load carrying surface area. There is friction, but it must be kept at a manageable level. The lube, oil, and rotating lifter help with that. The contact patch or load carrying area is always moving and being lubricated so the friction and the resulting heat is controlled. Others may see it differently but that's my story and I'ma stick'n to it. Yeah, made my head hurt trying write all this shit. Probably should get back to Lloyd Fest 2025. Go Big Daddy go!

 

Lol kinda interesting, but aggravating as hell lol.

 

so long as something catastrophic doesnt happen between then and now I will be there. I may be late coming in on friday. but God willing I will be there.

i will need a few gallons of oil, it just pours out the road draft tube, its not a gasket. i think theres just nothing i can do other than rebuild it at this point.

 

hang a can under the tube!

 

We are loaded and ready to roll. Leaving Tuesday after Lois gets back from her 8 am appt. Will stay Wednesday night at Camp Ground in Salt Lick. Drain tanks and fill up fresh water tank. Will be at Park Thursday afternoon with MH. Looking forward to Dinner Thursday night. My '40 Ford coupe is on trailer gassed up an ready for the poker run. Everyone be safe while driving. Ron

 

Last engine I built was was over 55 years ago. I was just a dumb ass 19 year old who thought he knew everything. The 289 I built had a solid lifter Sig Erson cam from San Bernardino Racing. I have no idea any of the specs but it was a solid lifter cam so it must be bad ass, right? Anyway the engine was put together on a couple of old tires for an engine stand and STP to coat the bearings and cam. I did however use an oil pressurizer to bring the oil pressure up before the initial start and breaking in the cam. Point is the engine ran like a striped ass ape and I beat the snot out of it until I sold the car when I got drafted. But decided not to temp fate with the 302 for my current Ranch Wagon build . I had the machine shop long block it. Figured I got lucky once but wasn't going to go for double or nothing.

 

That sux about your cam/lifters, Lloyd. Today is last day home, leaving tomorrow early. Weather is iffy up here, going to invest in some Rain X, wipers work but sorta weakly. I plan to contribute to food/ beer etc... See Ya soon!!

 

I will see you Friday
I'm bringing a bunch of stuff to sell or trade.
I will have some intakes (exactly what I don't know yet)
Lots of vintage car magazines as well as other stuff.

 

Weather shows good here this weekend, chance of rain tmrw and Thursday. Be safe out there! See ya soon!

 

Sounds like a plan my brother!

 

I am actually going to bring some junk to sell as well.

I follow the weather all the time & we are probably all going to get wet Thursday, but will be blessed with a GREAT Friday, Saturday & Sunday!!!!

By the way....Stubby is running, going to run it a bit later today, set timing, check fluids, etc. I don't think he will be perfect, but hopefully run enough to do the Poker Run.

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

I like to trade as well

 

When are you leaving. We are taking a break at rest stop b4 Charlottesville. We'll be at LF III on Thursday. If you see me, blow your horn and wave. We are in a Renegade MH towing trailer with Black '40 Ford coupe. See you there. Ron

 

12 mile test drive to get fuel & NO issues! Not quite right yet as I think it should be faster, but I restrained myself from doing a big holeshot & breaking something. Right now Stubby can participate in the Poker Run without any issues & Laura & I can have a fun weekend with all the rest of you "Car Crazies"

We will be leaving Thursday Morning around 9-9:30AM heading south on I-71 from the Cleveland area. Give us a wave if you pass....Black Dually, Black Enclosed Trailer with a new message on the rear door.

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

See ya soon big guy

 

All I can say now is get a pig in the ground and some beer on ice cause all your rowdy friends are coming over tonight. Hehe.

 

DANG! That thing's KOOL!!!

 

The one engine we have waiting to start and break in the flat tappet cam we installed break in springs. I can tell you the spring pressure is way down compared to the springs rated for the cam. I think during the break in there is hard surfacing prosses that is happening.

 

Bill - Right on, man! What did you find out?

 

It’s unfortunate that there is not a machine to break in a camshaft and lifters without having to install them in an engine. I guess a guy could have a stock small block set up on a stand with the lighter springs just to “run in” a cam and lifters. I have too much time to ruminate. An hour commute to and from work will do that.