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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by NealinCA, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. vintagehotrods
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    Wow, Neal! An inventive and cool solution for the age old problem of butchered top inserts. I'm saving this one for sure!
     
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  2. 57tailgater
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    "Mandrel" bent aluminum roof trim strips - great idea!
     
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  3. NealinCA
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    My friend Joe came over today to help on the front crossmember repair. He's done a few, so I let him take the lead.

    He got right at it, cutting out the damaged section with a plasma.
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    Here's the old and the new

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    Good thing we are replacing, as the old crossmember was really bad underneath

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    New piece clamped in place

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    And welded and ground.

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    It ended up at about 1" drop, so that will help the stance. I am looking forward to getting the front end back from powder coated, so I can get it back together and down on the ground.
     
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  4. NealinCA
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    I fit a set of early Model A square top u-bolts and cut down upper plate, along with a 32-34 lower plate.

    First step was to drill the two locating holes for the upper plate.

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    Then make some 1-3/4 wide spring spacers for the bottom golf the spring pack. I used some 1/4x2 flat bar and took an 1/8" off each side in the mill

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    Being that we kept the back portion of the original 32 crossmember in tact, the u-bolt holes needed to be enlarged to allow the lower plate to go up an inch further than stock.

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    And a stock V8 radiator clears the u-bolts and upper plate with about 3/8" clearance.

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  5. vintagehotrods
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    More great ideas! The Devil is always in the details!
     
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  6. Tim
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    Great updates/progress!

    when you made the curves in the new roof pieces how did you bring it around the form/corner? That stuff can be pretty touchy so I image heat and pull the long end around compared to any sort of hammer work.
     
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  7. NealinCA
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    I annealed about 6" sections where the bends needed to be, then just bent the molding by hand. I had left about 12" extra to use as a lever. One bent really flat. The second bend had a twist to it, but I was able to use a plastic shot hammer and tap it back flat, hammering only on the top of the electrical cord I had stood vertically in the channel.
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    I watched these 2 videos to get an idea of what I needed to do.



    He talks about annealing at about the 6 minute mark, so then I watched another video just about annealing aluminum.



    I used the Sharpie and Oxy/Acetylene torch method
     
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  8. Tim
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    Perfect! Thank you :)
     
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  9. NealinCA
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    Worked on the front end upgrade project this weekend.

    Primed and painted the front crossmember as well as the original 41 Lincoln backing plates and "pancake" drums...plus a few small pieces.

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    I blasted the insides of the drums, painted them with cast iron paint and then turned them. They were standard size, but had a few grooves and cleaned up at .030" over.

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    I had most of the other parts gloss black powder coated. This pile made it almost like a big model kit.

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    Assembly started pretty smoothly.
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    We slid the frontend under the car and let the weight down on it.
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    I put a 7 leaf reverse eye spring in, as I've used that combination several times before, but this one seems to to be a little too de-arched, so I'm gonna add 2 more leaves in and try that. I ended up with 9 leaves in the front of my 5w, so hopefully that gives me a reasonable amount of travel
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    Until next time...
     
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  10. Tim
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    Looking good :)
     
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  11. alchemy
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    You ever think about using the stock rubber bumper in the spring clamp? I want to dearch my sedan’s spring a bit but the axle will be getting close to the clamp. The bumper would prevent hard smacks.
     
  12. NealinCA
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    I will use the rubber bumper in the lower spring plate, and have in my other cars. This was just mocked up in the last pic, as I knew it needed to come back apart to add more leaves to the spring.
     
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  13. Speedy Canuck
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    When I opened this thread I thought "ugh, who's bumping a 13 year old thread".

    Always nice when it's the OP bumping it up with some cool updates.
     
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  14. NealinCA
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    I didn't do very well taking pictures today. I had to travel several hours this morning to pick up a batch of freshly machined steering boxes.
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    When I got back I started sorting out pieces to finish the frontend. First up were the wheel bearings. I was fortunate to have a full set of Ford script bearings.

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    Little details like this make my day

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    Then I got busy working....

    And I ended the day here.
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    The extra two spring leaves that I added to the pack were just what it needed. Still low, but with just enough suspension travel to make for a good driver.
     
  15. rod1
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    That's so cool...
     
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  16. Tim
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    Looking good!
     
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  17. Dubonet Garage
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    Just a perfect day!
     
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  18. NealinCA
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    Got the frontend buttoned up today. Shocks attached and everything is snugged up and cotter pinned.

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    Now time to put the lower splash apron, grille shell and hood back on. Then get back on the roof project. Need to drill all the holes and fit the tack strip. Then pull it back off, paint it and then get it to my friends upholstery shop to install the new top material
     
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  19. alchemy
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    Are the shocks good original, rebuilt, or repro?
     
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  20. NealinCA
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    They are new Rotoshim shocks from England. I have a full set on my 5W and was happy with them, so decided to buy a pair for the front of this car.

    https://rotoshim.com/technical

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