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Projects Building My First Roadster in San Francisco

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. Tim
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    That’s the way it goes but nothing wrong with a good weekend :) take them while you can!

    I always make an ambitious list. I’d rather not get it all done than get a small list done and then have un used time left because I wasn’t sure what’s next.

    You probably tossed them but have you got a photo of the spalling bearing so we can keep an eye out for the same thing?
     
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  2. J.Ukrop
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    Amen to that! I'll try to take a picture of them this weekend. They're original Ford script pieces, so almost too cool to get rid of (although I probably should, from a space standpoint).
     
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    On Saturday, I focused my efforts on the brakes. I was nervous, but I was ready. I called up my friend Justin who was more than happy to help. He had just picked up a 1959 Pan-Shovel in Geyserville, so his stop doubled as a show-and-tell.
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    Vintage truck, even more vintage bike. Looking forward to seeing this one in action.

    With the roadster securely hoisted on jack stands, we began the adjustment and bleeding process. IMG_5980.jpg
    Which included a lot of this.
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    Which unfortunately turned into this.
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    As we finished bleeding the right rear brake, a waterfall of fluid poured from the left front. Fluid filled the grease shield and leaked onto the shoes. To say I was frustrated would be an understatement. That was it for the day. I felt defeated on my long weekend of hot rod work.

    After a little bit of time away, I read that I could scrub the shoes and bake them in the sun. So I did just that. First, I threw on some rubber gloves and scrubbed away in my apartment building's wash basin. Then, since it was a nice weekend, I put the shoes on the fire escape to dry. IMG_1789.jpg And you know what? Most of the fluid came came off. I spoke with my trusted experts who recommended giving them a little scuff too. I'll be rebuilding the brake cylinder and giving the whole thing another shot this weekend/next week. Down, but not out.
     

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    There aren't any good parts about being stuck on a project, but I've worked to find some silver linings. This has given me a little bit of time to focus on other aspects, like finalizing the fuel pump stand.
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    Yes, I did splurge for chrome nuts and lock washers.
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    I've also gotten to take a break to explore the outdoors. Here's a mid-century house that I've been meaning to check out. It's even better in person. Okay, now imagine a shot with my roadster parked out front.
     
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    In an almost uncharacteristic fashion, I've been getting things checked off the list but not taking pictures. This is because 1) some of the items aren't too crazy and 2) my garage lighting isn't 100% dialed in. Nonetheless, here's what I've done lately.
    • Install fuel pump stand
    • Install oil pan drain plug gasket
    • Finalize master cutoff switch with cables and grommet
    • Buy fuel line materials
    • Buy wiring materials
    • Buy not-so-era-correct exhaust clamps
    • Seal quickchange
    • Finalize tie rod hardware
    • Install one seatbelt
    And, last night, I finally filled the engine oil.
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    While I was on a roll, I also used a traditional funnel as I filled the steering box.
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    It mostly worked.

    Tonight, I installed a couple of star washers on electrical connections. I have a busy weekend of non-car stuff on the horizon, but I'm going to try to get out there tomorrow night and make moves. Wish me luck!
     
  6. Dubonet Garage
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    I think I saw this house, with a classic European car in the garage, on one of Atomic Industry's sites (a great thread). Is that correct?
     
  7. winduptoy
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    thanks for the updates....and man...look at this thread 165 pages and counting....
    you are a star building a star....
    and as a ex contractor.....the last 10% of the job takes 90% of the time....
     
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  8. Tim
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    Bad wheel cylinder? As shitty as that is for your weekend at least it happened when it was sitting in jack stands.

    good progress man keep truckin :)

    P.S. new shop name idea “the hot water garage”
     
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  9. G_Don
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    I spray my backing plates with soapy water before bleeding them cause I always spill fluid haha. Learning this a few years ago was life changing for me, but may be old news for most.

    Gordy
     
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  10. Tim
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    That’s not a bad idea!
     
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    Thank you! Just trying to get this thing going one piece at a time.

    That's very true. I'm excited to give it another shot. I was thinking about calling it the Balboa Boiler Room, but I like the Hot Water Garage too!

    Hahaha that's a good plan! Good thing the black paint on these was already pretty messed up.
     
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    Time for some weekend highlights. I didn't get as much done as I would have liked, but I liked what I did get done.

    On Friday night, I added the Royal Purple to the quickchange. After it was filled, I actually went back and carefully removed each of the nuts one by one, adding chrome lock washers and then torquing everything to spec. No leaks thus far.
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    Reminded me of purple Faygo. I also filled the transmission using a custom-cut funnel, but no pictures were taken.
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    The following morning, I motored over to the Sunset to explore an estate sale. The story went that the homeowner, who had since passed away, bought out the local hardware store in the 1970s for $250. He then proceeded to rent a U-Haul and fill his garage with a wide range of nuts, bolts, fasteners, and more.
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    Here he was hauling the chassis of his Porsche 356-powered Meyers Manx. Remnants are still sitting in the backyard.
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    And here's the powerplant, which has been sitting here since the 1970s. "When he had that motor in there, the thing couldn't keep the front wheels on the ground," the son recalled. I was informed that the chain was for safety in the event of an earthquake. Looks like it's held up just fine.
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    A little taste of home with this Rotunda seatbelt box. It was filled with mostly burnt out bulbs.
     
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    Being space constrained, I knew I could't take home much. I scored a couple of boxes of hardware, plus some vintage hose clamps and a little cabinet full of treasures.
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    Can't beat this.
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    Era-correct parts certainly help build an era-correct car (and motorcycle). IMG_1928.jpg
    Back at the house, I got straight to work on the first segment of my fuel line.
     
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    Made some bends in the NiCopp.
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    Ate a coney.
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    Redid the whole segment at least once, but I'm happy with it.
     
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    I still have a few more updates, but that's all for tonight. Oh, and happy fifth birthday to this thread!
     
  16. richard noble
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    Fuel line looks great, I bet you could find a lot of neat stuff in those garages around the Bay Area. Speaking of garages, you’re going to be warm as toast and dry this winter, with that stack of hot water heaters. No rust for you…..
     
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  17. Tim
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    Looks great Joey. Good progress :)
     
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    Joey, your doing a GREAT job on that lil car... Be mindful of those Gas WATER HEATERS in the background and ANY FUEL VAPORS your car might give off once you've gassed it up..... I always cool my cars down outside before putting them back inside....
     
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    Hot Dog man.....!
     
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    It's neat to think there was a time that a graphic artist could make a living drawing up stuff like this:

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    Often the contents didn't match the quality of the art work. All kinds of product labels made stores into art galleries. I have a lithograph stone that still has the drawings for a 3 color wine label. I should try to print it but I don't have a press anymore.
     
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    Thanks guys! And we're back. So on Sunday night, I figured I'd knock perhaps the easiest task off the list: fill the radiator with distilled water.
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    It may seem like nothing, but I will admit that I was excited. I remember filling up version 1.0 with water from Safeway and watching it drink it up.
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    The olden days.

    This time, as the rest of the neighborhood slept, I popped off the radiator cap and began to pour. When the last drips found their way into the radiator, I called the job done. Then I realized that the water level seemed a little low. "I'll just add more water tomorrow," I said. While I was walking away, I saw a wet spot on the rug. You guessed it—something was leaking on my brand new radiator.

    It didn't take long to discover that the leak was coming from the bottom—not from one of the outlets, but rather from a little red plastic plug. I searched my garage for a suitable replacement with no luck.

    At my old garage, I could just drain the water onto the floor and let it run down the drain at the center. Well, this garage doesn't have that. I moved my motorcycles, pushed the car towards the mouth of the garage, and let it all gush out.
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    For more than a minute, 3.5 gallons of water shot from the radiator onto the sidewalk. To the people around me, it must have sounded like someone was taking a leak as the stream pitter-pattered onto the concrete. I laughed at the absurdity of it all.

    And, with that, I called it a night.
     
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    Last night and tonight I've been focusing on the fuel line. I got the center portion sorted out last night, and I'm making strides on the final leg. I'll post pictures once it's all assembled, but I figured I'd share how it's looking thus far.

    Rather than have the fuel line run straight down the rear of the tank, I wanted to clamp some of the hardline to the body. It will be insulated by rubber segments on either side. The problem is that on the Model A, there's not a ton of opportunities for places to mount P-clamps—so I made an extension of the driver's side body support that connects to the inner wheelwell.
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    This was once a spare piece of my free workbench, now outfitted with vintage hardware. Final photos hopefully happening soon.

    And that's where we call it for the night. Thanks everyone for following along!
     
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  24. Tim
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    Man it’s so close! Good on you for not fishing this last push
     
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    Hello,

    Wow, what a nice floor workspace in your house or garage. A nice woven rug for a display work space is pretty nice. It also allows for a clean place to take a nap if so desired. Ha!

    When my wife and I got married as 20 somethings, we moved into a small apartment. The floor was wooden and we had it refinished prior to moving into the apartment. Then my wife’s grandmother had an old carpet she had rolled up in her garage. She had never used it since the old days of OKC and since moving to So Cal in the early 50s, it had been used a couple of times in various houses, but for the last 10 years, it was covered and stored away in their garage. We have no idea how those two older folks had the power to roll up the woven carpet and stored it anywhere… yikes!

    Once we got it home in the 1965 Red El Camino, we could not carry it up the stairs. So, we had two neighbors help carry it up some narrow stairs to lay out on our finished wooden floor living room space.
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    Once we got it centered in our empty space, now the hard part took over. Our stereo system had its own Hatchboard cover I refinished and that was the basis for the whole small area. Then as we continued to sit on the floor, my wife got the great idea of huge pillows instead of a couch or several single comfy chairs. The huge pillows would be able to move easily to any position on the small rug floor area.

    Jnaki

    But, the antique carpet lasted from 1968 to several other house moves and then finally, we gave it away to a friend in need of setting up his/her apartment, just like us in our 20’s. YRMV

    Note:

    The closest thing to a car was a metal sculpture my wife’s cousin gave us for a wedding gift. Ha! He knew we were interested in cars and photography. So, it sat on the Hatchboard cover next to our stereo for a while… You are lucky to have a nice floor covering for your workspace.


     
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  26. Six Ball
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    You know you are getting close to the end and have confidence in your work when you start cannibalizing your shop to finish the project! You've come a long way kid!
     
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    Hey @J.Ukrop
    Hey Joey, those "p-clamps' are also known as "Adel" clamps, some people at various parts stores can get confused when asking for those!
     
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    Adel clamps are most accurately sold as MS21919 clamps which is the military specification for the clamps.
     
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    How much were they selling the 356 engine for? Cores of these engine usually sell for $2500 at least! Runners are $5-10K ALL DAY! Thats a dream find at an estate sale!!
     
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    was thinking the same thing.....
     
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