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Hot Rods 32 ford tank venting

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by nochop, Sep 17, 2025.

  1. nochop
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    My original tank is going to get pulled and turned into wall art. I believe the 30 year old coating is giving up and actually making it through the filter. Bought a new Tanks inc unit that includes a rollover/vent valve. Any ideas on mounting the roll over vent? I haven’t started the change yet, just spitballing. Thanks all
     
  2. Bandit Billy
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    They say the vent should be higher or as high as the filler (the tank fill not the guy manning the pump handle). :cool:
    That is tough on a 32 tank where the fill is directly on the tank. I would run the vent up the back of the tank, under the body, maybe to the crossmember? Out of sight.
     
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  3. clem
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    this is what is required in New Zealand.

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  5. 19Eddy30
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    I ran mine around lip of tank to rear spreader bar under frame horn cover.
    No roll over used .
     
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  6. alchemy
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    Doesn’t the rollover ball negate the need to loop the vent up high? If you roll the car, the ball stops the leak.

    I’ve had a Tanks rollover valve/vent on the stock tank in my 32 sedan for almost 20 years. No fumes. But I’ve never rolled the car, so I can’t tell how it would work in a crash.
     
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  7. 5window
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    Rollover vents are a good idea.
    Federal safety and environmental regulations
    • Fuel system integrity (FMVSS 301): The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) mandates that vehicle fuel systems must withstand crashes without significant fuel leakage. In a rollover test, fuel spillage is strictly limited during the first five minutes and subsequent increments of rotation. Rollover valves are a key component in meeting these standards by closing the vent line to prevent fuel from escaping when the tank is not upright.
    • Fuel system venting (49 CFR 393.65): The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) also has specific requirements for liquid fuel tanks, including those over 25 gallons.
      • Safety venting system: Tanks must have a venting system to prevent ruptures in case of fire.
      • Air vent: All fuel tanks must have a non-spill air vent, which can be part of the fill cap or a separate unit. This prevents vacuum lock and allows for proper air displacement.
    • Clean Air Act: Capping or byp***ing a rollover valve is a violation of the Clean Air Act, as it allows fuel vapors and liquid fuel to be released into the environment.
     
  8. 19Eddy30
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    All above can be Debunked
    Just One Thought ,
    Big Trucks side saddle tank typical 125 gallons,
    My Big Nose Pete
    Had 2 150gallon plus a snigle 100 gal
    So 400 gal's . All 3 tanks Aluminum.
    Quite frequently big trucks get
    T-bone / hit in the tanks,
    Back in 70's Vega /Pinto all big Media scare, Fire
    & up to around 74 gas tank in cab of truck behined seat.
    Someting to thank about ,
    All vehicle with all the plastic
    There a lot of "Static Electricity"
    Then Most Run there tanks Low
    Then pump Gas , Most of us know
    Fume's are more dangerous than the liquid,,
    For like last 25 years I make a Habit to ground my self out when Exiting plastic Vehicles & befor pumping gas.
    Back in 90 NHRA started a Rule that
    Nylon fuel cells Needed to be Grounded. & when we picked up Fuel @ air port 100 blue , we grounded
    Jug /Vehicle just like when fueling a Plane
     
  9. Mr48chev
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    I've pondered that before when someone was trying to figure it out but I'd say the barbed roll over valve in a loop like Clem showed in post 3 with some creative tube bending and a couple of gromets foor the holes at the back of the of the trunk floor right above the vent tube just in front of the back panel Screenshot 2025-09-18 100551.png Screenshot (906).png Screenshot (907).png . I'd stick some sort of filter on the bottom of the loop if it were mine even if it was an inline fuel filter to keep any dirt out.
     
  10. clem
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    with a ‘32 as the original poster is asking about, everything is outside of the body.
    No need for grommets going through the trunk floor.
    If you are alluding to a fuel tank in the trunk, New Zealand’s lvvta has a diagram for that also,
    maybe of help to someone….

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  11. nochop
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    You a wise guy Billy lol
     
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  12. nochop
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    Where did you terminate it, I’m thinking up above the rear axel is about as hi as I can get it
     
  13. nochop
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    What tanks inc told me is the roll over valve takes the place of a vented cap which can leak gas slosh. The roll over vent needs to be higher than full fuel level. I’m ***uming that if there is a loop i.e. a line lower than the terminal placement of the roll over, would not vent how I’m intending the valve to function (as a vent)
     
  14. nochop
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    No splash out the vent? Odors? Vented or non vented cap?
     
  15. alchemy
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  16. 19Eddy30
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    IMG_4062.jpeg IMG_4023.png
    No , & I drag my cars
    I had a Model A with 32 tank I made
    Work my own set up ,
    & other 32's
    14 gallon tanks
    All 3 where / are low 6 sec 1/8 .
    In if you run vet under or up threw
    Trunk , Fumes / gas smell in side car's
    The A No frame horn cover , So I drilled hole in boxed frame
    ( adaptor to stock boxed A frame)
    , & ran Nylon hose / tube in frame back to rear
    Spreader bar 7/16 th I D
     
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  17. 5window
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    You're allowed more than 60 characters in a line. It might make it easier to read. :)
     
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  18. RockyMtnWay
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    Here’s a couple examples of how I do it.
    One example (puppy) is in a Tudor, and one is a Roadster (did a 5Ws same way).
    Both use a pricey rollover valve in-line and then a small filter at the end of the line (under the floor).
    note: didn’t put the coil in the line (in the 5W) and it still seemed to work. It was more like the tudor line. Don’t know why I did it this time, but always experimenting. :D:D:D

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  19. Bandit Billy
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    Cute puppy. Looks like a great garage buddy
     
  20. 5window
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    Keep the antifreeze cleaned up and locked away.
     
  21. Karl Wescott
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    This is basically what I did on my roadster, get the vent as high as possible. The one other thing I did was to put a cheapo in line filter on the end of the vent line in the theory that it would help minimize any road grit getting into the tank.
     
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  22. pprather
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    Mine comes up through the floor in the right fender well (behind the upholstery panel) about 6 inches, then a 180 degree bend and down through the floor to the atmosphere.
     

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