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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ifitaintbroke, Sep 17, 2025.

  1. Ifitaintbroke
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    Ifitaintbroke

    We are planning on building a large shed in order to get some of the junque out of the garage. Then the garage can be said clean space.
     
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  2. George
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    There was a thread on them. Maybe in the Hemi tech Index.
     
  3. Pav8427
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    Whole new meaning to the word Junque.
    I like it.
     
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  4. RodStRace
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    @Ifitaintbroke Thank your lady for putting up with a bunch of goofballs on the net. :cool:
    That engine is going to be very interesting once you can get it back together.
     
  5. Ifitaintbroke
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    Is it just me or does that intro music sound like The Shadows?
     
  6. warhorseracing
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    It kind of resembles a Model B block that has been reverse engineered to add improvements. Particularly in the port design.
     
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  7. Ifitaintbroke
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    Ifitaintbroke

    I've read that GAZ copied Ford quite a lot, and upon examining the bottom end this morning, it looks like a design from the 20s or 30s.
     
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  9. 29Sleeper
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  10. Ifitaintbroke
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    Apparently Ford had a presence in Russia before the revolution. Interesting. What's more interesting is that they were able to maintain a presence after the revolution.
     
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  11. Bandit Billy
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    You're alright, she is too. Thanks for playing along and entertaining us old guys. Nostrovia
     
  12. Ifitaintbroke
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    I imagine there aren't too many of us genZ-ers on here.
     
  13. Ifitaintbroke
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    Ifitaintbroke

    For those wondering, this is what it looks like complete:
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  14. PackardV8
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    That intake and exhaust porting is as good as any flathead four I've ever seen and miles/years better than anything Ford ever gave us. (Of course, with another fifty years to look at it, even I could have improved Henry's work.)

    All my experience is years past, but during the Soviet era, when replacement parts were unobtanium, those guy were incredibly creative at keeping worn-out-junk-when-new stuff running.

    I saw a guy who ran a repair shop out of his apartment closet. He made a 30-degree angle wooden framework, padded with old quilting, so he could tilt a Lada or whatever up on its side and work on the undercarriage without a hoist, floor jack or jackstands.

    Back in the day, even windshield wiper blades were unobtanium. When parking on the street, the driver would remove the wiper blades and lock them inside the car.

    jack vines
     
  15. j hansen
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    Skärmavbild 2025-09-18 kl. 19.14.44.png
     
  16. Ifitaintbroke
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    Honestly I was shocked when I first looked in them. A little disappointed too. I'm a compulsive porter and like a good challenge. I'll try to figure out a way to improve them. I may also look at the head and check for valve shrouding. Hmmm.... I doubt those valves have enough lift to get shrouded by the head anyway.......
     
  17. George
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    Some American employees of Ford still worked there in the 30s, but apparently killed by Stalin in one of the Purges. Read somewhere, I guess post "fall of the wall", that the Mercedes V8 is the small block Chevy of Eastern Europe.
     
  18. 29Sleeper
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    They were not our enemy until after WWII.
    By 1922, Moscow had repudiated the goal of world revolution, and sought diplomatic recognition and friendly trade relations with the capitalist world, starting with Britain and Germany. Finally, in 1933, the United States gave recognition. Trade and technical help from Germany and the United States arrived in the late 1920s.
     
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  19. ClayMart
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  20. RodStRace
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    @ClayMart no problem!
    I have actually dabbled with reading and posting on my phone this year a couple times. I find it okay for that, but sure haven't figured out how to open another tab, search, copy then paste nearly as well as the ol' desktop. I should be out getting parts gathered, but am staying inside another day.
    There were a couple videos about the cars too, but when the HAMB link popped up, I knew which to use. ;):cool:
     
  21. This one, i believe they have built some variations since then.

    volga-11.jpg volga-01.jpg volga-02.jpg
     
  22. Ifitaintbroke
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    No clue what we're going to put this in yet, but I've been brainstorming how I want to run it. Current fever dream is to boost and inject it using Saab Trionic 5.5 efi from a 1998 9000 CSE. I'd keep the boost low, and use all the Saab sensors. Obviously some custom work. Yeah, I'm crazy.
     
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  23. Greenblade
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    You'll probably get moved to the off topic forums if you do that.
     
  24. Ifitaintbroke
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    I get that. As long as it's documented I don't really care.
     
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  25. Greenblade
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    Just wanted to make sure you knew.
    I see you own a couple of Saabs listed on your profile, if you ever find yourself near Sturgis South Dakota, there is a fantastic Saab heritage museum there. Definitely worth a visit.
     
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  26. Ifitaintbroke
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    I'll keep that in mind if I'm ever that way. The lady and I have 3 Saabs currently, but she's had 6 or 7 over the years.
     
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  27. KenC
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    Those block pics are interesting. Particularly the water passage in the front, looks like a flathead 6 Mopar! Does it have a distribution tube inside? The oil pump mount and head bolt pattern also look Mopar-like.
     
  28. Ifitaintbroke
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    It does have some goofy tubes on the bottom. I'll get some more pics of it later.
     
  29. PackardV8
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    There are some Hamburger-appropriate age Saabs; I owned and drove them for more than forty years. Only sold my last one a year ago. Always interesting to drive; the worse the weather and the worse the roads, the more superior Saabs seemed and that cannot be said of most marques.

    jack vines
     
  30. 29Sleeper
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    It should breathe great with those individual ports. Be careful with the grinder the water is probably real close. Jim Brierley's head has the best flathead chamber I've seen. There was a lot of briggs & straton racing going on and they came up with some great mods for those flathead lawnmower engines.
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