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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. Tim
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    It’s so cool that you’ve got these photos man. Often we remember to take the photo of progress and forget to have the people.
     
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    Being he's a journalist, historian and photographer, I think he understands that! :D
     
  3. Six Ball
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    I hope he is better at hanging on to them than I am. I have lost so many photos over the years on my laptop Still have negatives from the '60s but this digital stuff goes away on me.
     
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    Instead of relying on a friend to help you bleed brakes (or your wife), you can buy speed bleeders. I use em all when I remember to order them, and they seem to strip less easy than the ones that come with the wheel cylinders. Theyre just bleeders with one way valves.

    Or you can buy a thing from any auto parts store thats just a bottle with a magnet and hose that you have sitting above the wheel cylinder so teh air bubbles escape.

    Or you can just spend the money on beer and have an excuse to drink beer with your friend while hes over. lol
     
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    Me, Yama, and Nic had quite the night tonight in the Richmond. It consisted of an apartment tour, dinner from one of my favorite Chinese restaurants, and plenty of brake bleeding. IMG_2376.jpg
    Yama has been doing this since he was a teenager, so he made sure to teach me the ins and outs of a brake bleed. I don't want to jinx anything, but as I head off to sleep tonight, I'm excited to share that my roadster has functional brakes again. I'll check them again in the morning, but things seem to be heading in the right direction!
     
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    So good! It's an exciting & frustrating part of a build, but methodically working through each system is the best way!
     
  7. Tim
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    Hot dog! Big step!

    Also if you need to re bleed them after driving it a bit after a bubble gets knocked loose it’s not a big deal. Fresh cars aren’t that far from a fresh bike.

    get it warm a few times, take a few neighborhood drives, check it all and repeat :)
     
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    Sometimes things work, sometimes they don't. I feel like I'm learning a lot by doing things two or three times. Hahaha

    Agreed!

    Thanks!
     
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    I'm on the road again, but before I left, I wanted to check as many things off the list that I could. This included making the final piece of fuel line.
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    I still need to tighten everything down and replace the front hose. I also need to order the right size Allen to adjust the linkage.
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    Here's how things are looking in the garage.
     
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    Before I left, I messed with the brakes some more. Frustratingly enough, I found some slight weeping at two of the fittings and on the rear of the master cylinder. I then carefully tightened everything in hopes of sealing it up.

    As I made more adjustments, I noticed that on the first pump, the pedal would go down to the floor with some resistance. On the second pump, it would feel more "normal," as if it had built up pressure. I don't have any frame of reference, but this doesn't seem correct. I'm going to work with Yama to re-bleed the brakes when I'm back.

    For my final test, I did roll the car down my very short driveway and jam on the brakes. And you know what? It stopped. Even if I don't have it figured out, I'd say that's a step in the right direction.
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    Oh, and it may not seem like much, but pushing this thing up the driveway by myself was a real workout. I was sweating and swearing and using a pair of wood blocks to make sure I didn't lose any ground. This is extra motivation to not break down (or to work on my persuasion skills when it comes to asking for help with a push).
     
  13. Stogy
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    I just talked to a friend that had an elusive brake problem...turned out it was sucking in air but not losing fluid...it was a damaged piston or bore They were disc's but perhaps this could happen on drum brakes as well...I know you will figure it out but I'm sure the chase can be frustrating and lengthy. I think you may qualify for the highest overhead shot I've seen on the Hamb...There's a Thread on it...time to submit a pic and Bttt...;)
    You're really getting things together Joey...a lotta hard work too!!
     
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    Your pedal means there’s an air bubble in the system. The weeping spot typically goes both ways. If fluids coming out air can come back in.

    feels like something you would already know but on the off chance you don’t, when you tighten those flared fittings trying to get them to seal the “proper” way to do it is to loosen the fitting about a half turn and then re tighten it.

    I think it’s a mix of re seating the flare while tightening it to nearly the original level of tightness, and helping you avoid over tightening it to the point of splitting the flare. Then it really won’t seal lol.

    My buddy’s and I are pretty gorilla fisted so not over tightening things even with small hand tools is often a conversation topic.

    looks good with the front wheels out on the curb! Been there recently and it got me going for sure :)
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    Also, you may already be using them, but I like to use flair nut wrenches on the brake fittings. It allows you to tighten the nuts with less fear of rounding them out when you are using a standard open end wrench....
    just a thought...
     
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    Good insight. And that's a great thread, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

    The sedan is looking good! And I hadn't heard the loosen/tighten strategy before. Now I know!

    Yes, I've been using my mid-century Craftsman flair nut wrenches from eBay. I'm glad I have them!
     
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    No news to report, but here's a higher-res shot of it in the driveway from the other day. 6P1A0236.jpg
     
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    Oh, and I have no clue how I managed to swap the blue walls with the whitewalls. Looks like I have some scrubbing in my future!
     
  19. Tim
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    Man you really nailed it man
     
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    You captured the look, Joey……
     
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  21. Outback
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    Looks so so good!
     
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