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History The Influence of Tom Cobbs

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Dec 8, 2025 at 8:17 AM.

  1. Ryan
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    Ryan submitted a new blog post:

    The Influence of Tom Cobbs

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    Continue reading the Original Blog Post
     
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  2. Moriarity
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    It is called Heart... He was in the sport for the sport of it and nothing else... pretty special if you ask me...
     
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  3. Rolleiflex
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    I love that he was/is the complete an***hesis of his day and for sure today's racing world.
    I have much love and respect for these types of guys.
     
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  4. 5w Jen
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    Thanks! And I'd think the influence of Tom Cobbs still lives on through Ryans blog posts, in a small part also serves as inspiration for our racecar build.
     
  5. Onemansjunk
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    I bet Frank Sr. Knew Buck Smith.
     
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  6. Lepus
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    So what was his day job?
     
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  7. hotrodA
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    Thanks for another interesting chapter in the Tom Cobb saga.
    You may well be the ONLY reason that Tom’s name and deeds are finally shared with the world!
    Thanks for the experience!
     
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  8. Ryan
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    He was a international tobacco dealer... Or, at the very least, it was the family business... Tom's old man was responsible for bringing American tobacco to both Europe and China.

    I haven't been able to confirm any of this with legitimate journalistic integrity, but I've been told that Tom's dad made a ton of money and by the end of WWII, didn't really need to work for a living anymore. So what's a loaded father to do with a son that has an engineering mind, restless energy, and a need for speed? Support him and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

    I've also been told that Tom didn't spend money on much of anything unless it helped him go fast. He had a nice home in a middle cl*** neighborhood, took some lavish vacations, but mostly reserved his money for endeavors of speed and power.

    A lot of people don't know this, but Tom (or Tom's dad) provided a lot of financial support for So-Cal Speedshop's early efforts as well... Note that none of the So-Cal cars featured any sponsorships at all.
     
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  9. Tim
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    This so cool to see all the Cobbs stuff put out on the hamb the same time Joe is setting the shop back up in his building and selling a few bits. So awesome
     
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  10. downlojoe33
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    It’s nice to get some blank spots in Tom’s life filled in. Gives me a more complete sense of the man.
     
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  11. Michael Ottavi
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    Again this history really needs to be saved (in a paper book, video, ?) as you have exposed us (me) to one of the giants of the hot rod world that in my ignorance I had no idea of his amazing accomplishments. He could fill as many books as the Mickey Thompson set of books did.
     
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  12. winduptoy
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    running a 'brand' is a distraction, and can turn the fun into work...
    sounds like Tom Cobb had a perfect set up to hone and apply his talents without the distraction of how to fund it
     
  13. sr
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    More great pieces of history. Great to hear about a successful individual without a loud mouth. He let the records do the talking.
     
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  14. Ryan
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    I’m with you, absolutely…

    But you also have to remember that not every guy with a logo and a catalog was out there trying to squeeze gold from the faithful like some hopped up snake oil prophet. For a lot of them, the branding, the ads, the bolt-on empires, all of it was just a means to an end. A way to bankroll the next experiment... Barney Navarro is the perfect example. Humble as a monk, sharper than a surgeon, and the only reason he stamped his name on anything was so he could afford more R&D. These weren’t all “look at me” pea****s strutting under the neon.

    Tom, from everything I’ve pieced together, had the rare luxury of not needing to play that game. He had financing, good financing, the kind that lets a man stay underground, do the work, and leave the world guessing. If he hadn’t? Hell, we might all be scouring swap meets for Cobbs-branded blower manifolds right now.

    What’s wild is this. I’ve met, interviewed, or otherwise dug deep into the lives of so many of the heroes from the forties and fifties, and the thing most people don’t realize is how decent so many of them were. Xydias was a razor sharp gentleman with a heart like a golden retriever. Vic, once you got him away from the commerce of things, was kind, generous, steady. Navarro practically glowed with goodness. Mickey Thompson, for all the myth, was an honest, hardworking family man who carried more integrity than most preachers.

    It wasn’t until the mid to late fifties that the market got fat enough to feed the big personalities... Barris, Roth, Howard, and the rest of that carnival... Love them or hate them, they were the beginning of the cult of personality in hot rodding.

    Before that, it was just men chasing speed, not fame. After that… well, you know the rest.
     
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  15. Tom's Dad and Tom were both in the smoke business....Tom smoked speed records...
     
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  16. Sharpone
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    Thanks Ryan
    Prior to your articles on Tom, I didn’t know who he was or the influence he had. I’m sure that many are like me in not knowing the history.
    Dan
     
  17. sr
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    I agree with Sharpone. I recognized his name, and knew he was involved, but no knowledge of his legacy. The other person who is like this is Fran Hernandez. You do not see his name as much as Tom, but he was a mover and shaker. The depth of Tom's reach is amazing. Thank you for the gumball!
     
  18. Ryan
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    Fran and Vic were buddies... and the main "rival" of Tom Cobbs in early days. In fact, it was Fran that Tom raced in the first organized drag race. Details here: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=2687

    Strange little tale for you… Ralph once threw me a lifeline and had the Tom Cobbs roadster hauled out to Penngrove for our Hot Rod Revolution back in 2009. A hell of a gesture, the kind of thing that makes you wonder what karmic debts you accidentally paid off. And as if that wasn’t enough cosmic mischief, the Fran Hernandez roadster rolled in too. But here’s the rub: I had no clue it was the Fran Hernandez roadster. Just another *****in old car in a sea of *****in old cars.

    So there we were, completely oblivious, hosting the first two “purpose built” drag cars ever created... And we didn’t even park them together. They were sitting there like two old war generals at opposite ends of the bar, not realizing the other was in the room.

    Now that I know, it gnaws at me like a rat in the drywall. A missed opportunity of crazy proportion. But it also drives home the only real truth any of us ever get in this racket: no matter how much you think you know, there’s still a mountain of weird, beautiful, **** left to uncover.
     
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  19. Sharpone
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    But it also drives home the only real truth any of us ever get in this racket: no matter how much you think you know, there’s still a mountain of weird, beautiful, **** left to uncover.

    Yep for me the more I learn the less I know.
    Dan
     
  20. sr
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    I would like to throw out that Don Waite was another guy off the radar. Fran, Vic and Don were working closely together to achieve racing success.
     
  21. Ryan
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    My dad always said that the secret to life is realizing this as you get older and older... The moment you convince yourself you’ve got it all figured out, that’s the moment you start mutating into a narcissistic old fart who doesn’t know a ******* thing about anything... just flapping your gums and mistaking noise for wisdom.

    That's actually something I think about a lot. And that makes me think about Xydias... I mean, he lived to a pretty ripe old age and the last time I talked to him (I think he was 95 or so), he was still working to figure **** out and adapt to life.

    So many people let their intellect rot out long before the ch***is gives up. They coast. They calcify. They turn into relics who stopped learning decades before their heart finally taps out. Not Xydias. He stayed awake. He stayed curious. He kept moving his mental feet even when the rest of him was slowing down.

    That kind of fire is rare. And it scares me in all the right ways.
     
  22. sr
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    That is so cool. I have found many people from that era are like Alex. At least the older car racer guys I have met. Sure there are many exceptions. I want to be like them. They are a model for humanity and myself. Charlie Markley, Don Waite, Jack Costella, Al Teague to name a few that have influenced me. They seem to have the understanding that knowing is not knowing. That there is a continuous learning curve. I want to be like them.
     
  23. Ryan
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    I’m not convinced it's under our control.... We’ve got a close family friend that gave as much as anyone to the world of drag racing. Sharp as a tack, innovative as hell, a real force of nature... Broke so many records, he started to sound like a broken record. And then one day, somewhere in his sixties, the lights just started dimming. And once that happens, once the intellect starts slipping, pride kicks in, shame kicks in, and pretty soon you’re stuck in a vicious loop. You stop accepting that you’re wrong, you get humiliated by the gaps, so you double down, and the whole machine spirals into the ditch.

    It’s terrifying. Because if a mind like his can go soft around the edges, what chance do I have?

    I hope to hell my mind runs as long as my tolerance for the human race, or at least limps along respectably. I’d like to stay curious until the very end, still trying to figure out the mystery even as the clock runs out.

    This **** is too dark. I'm out. :)
     
  24. patsurf
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    was it in penngrove cuz of the pinstriper there,or was there some cool hot rod shop i never knew of?--wow in any case!
     
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  25. Ryan
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    For a couple of years, we staged the Hot Rod Revolution on a dusty little league field in Penngrove, Ca. A ballpark for children, suddenly overrun by seventy to a hundred hot rods, each one cherry picked... invite only... Lots of historically significant cars would show. It was surreal. Beautiful. Slightly illegal feeling. Perfect.

    There were a thousand stories from those shows, each stranger than the last. Tardel and I originally cooked the whole thing up as a harebrained scheme to earn enough scratch to fly to Hawaii the following week. That was the plan. The reality, of course, was that we never made enough money to cover a cab ride to the airport, but we went to Hawaii anyway because we were too stupid or too stubborn to let common sense ruin a good tradition.

    One of the first years, cars we never invited started rolling in like we’d opened a free buffet for lost NSRA attendees. Some were right, proper old warriors we let through without hesitation, but most of them were too new, too slick, too plastic. And just when it started feeling like a riot of the mildly confused, Vern’s buddy arrives in full Hell’s Angels colors. We took one look at the situation, handed him security duty, and the problem evaporated.

    Those early years were full of bizarre moments like that, the kind of weirdness that only happens when hot rods, California sunshine, and questionable planning collide at high speed.
     
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    I've thought this for years that I'd love to see a well done book on the life of Fran Hernandez.
    He was there from the start of the post-war Hot Rod boom, worked for Offenhauser (senior), formed Offenhauser Equipment with Offenhauser (younger), worked for Edelbrock, worked for Ford and then headed up Mercury through the "Total Performance" years of the sixties. That alone is a book in itself.
     
  27. Onemansjunk
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    A27DA5F6-A8B9-4E19-8A90-8C4657CE5C30.jpeg His old man, Frank Sr., was a hydroplane lunatic in the fifties and sixties, a man who knew power when he smelled it. When he couldn’t get the juice he needed out of a Chevrolet, Louis Unser pointed him straight at Tom Cobbs.
     
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    Uploaded pics went crazy, sorry about that. I believe the GYPSY flat bottom V-Drive is a Buck Smith . Wish I knew how they came about the name OOPS. I know posting pics of boats is frowned upon, but it Frank Vessels Sr. So be kind with the DELETE ****on.
     
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