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Technical Cable adjustable flathead ford timing

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Dec 16, 2025.

  1. alchemy
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    Isn’t this technology from the Model A era?
     
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  2. Ryan
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    For sure... But guys did it later on flatheads for a variety of reasons. Most commonly, a full race motor that needs lots of timing at higher RPMs is super hard to start when using a dizzy or magneto with static timing. If it's adjustable, you can retard the timing for the start procedure and then advance it once you are ready to rock.
     
  3. I remember that story, I think you remembered it dead right.
     
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  5. Moriarity
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    All of the Roto faze distributors have that feature. I would imagine that’s where the Roto in the name came from. The adjustment cable I posted above has an indexing feature so you can count the clicks and get back to where you were…
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  6. Tim
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    Man I just saw someone make a base plate like this for a flathead maybe it was @JR-69 roadster?

    I can see it plane as day in my head. If not maybe @jordabennett did it?
     
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  9. 19Eddy30
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    If you study or take a distributor apart all these parts in the way their machine and aligned affect correct true timing not including time and chain Cam & gears , there even adjustable rotor ****ons this just a generic parts breakdown


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  10. Outback
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    In the photo you can see the outer ring holding the actuating cam for the points that is moved be the cable. An external spring biases retarded & the tension on the lever holds it in place
     
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  11. Ziggster
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    Kind of intrigued by all this as I had never heard of this before. Trying to understand how it would work.

    In this pic, I circled in purple what looks like the cable, in red the twin coils mounted to the firewall, and in yellow a return spring?

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  12. Ziggster
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    In this pic, I circled in purple where I’m guessing the cable would attach, and the blue line represents the parting line between the fixed section of the housing above the blue line, and the movable (rotating) section below the blue line. Is this correct?

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  13. patsurf
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    perfect
     
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  14. JR-69
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    It wasnt me, but I don’t see why you couldn’t modify a front cover to have a slip plate to allow it to rotate by lever. Wouldn’t need to modify the dizzy do the modifications in the engine plate itself.

    would be similar to how early HD timers worked with and advance lever as mentioned above.
    Aftermarket Magnetos for HDs are a fixed base and have a slip plate for advancing.
     
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  15. Ducbsa
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    This shows the outside cam and the cable at the top that rotates it to advance/retard the spark.

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  16. IMG_9866.jpeg This could be modified for the purpose this post is about.
     
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  17. I have these.
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  18. banjorear
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    Thinking about this. The trick would be to have it stay put after the cable or lever is pulled. I wonder if you make it with a series of detents and small spring loaded balls between the two plates so it has a positive stop. With some geometry, you could figure out various degrees advanced or retarded for each detent stop.
     
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  19. Ziggster
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    Just watching this cool vid, and at the 20 min mark, the owner/builder shows how the manual spark advance works with a cable. pretty nifty stuff.

     
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