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Fun with motormounts!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Clark, Nov 7, 2005.

  1. langy
    Joined: Apr 27, 2006
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    Here's 1 i did for my 394 Olds, its made from 3/8" Stainless and is in the shape of a pair of Rocket wing's, The ear's are 5/16" stainless in a tailfin shape, I also have some lightning hole's going in before polishing. I don't suppose anybody will notice when car is finished. lol

    Steve.

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  2. Here's some I made to fit my 300 in my 47 ford half ton. note: These are the first pair of mounts that I have ever made not to mention really teh first time I've worked with metal. I still need to clean the up a bit to make them a little more aesthetically pleasing
     

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  3. atch
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    clark (or anyone who's knowledgeable)

    is that mild steel? something special? how thick?
     
  4. Gator
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    Beautiful work Clark, as usual.
     
  5. Dahlhjelm
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    They arent really done yet. I've to holesaw and weld them first.

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  6. titus
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    watch out for the cheap biscuit type, after a few months of driving my deuce they started to sag real bad, the bolts werent even tight (they were tight against the should on the bolt though) and the motor got real close to my steering shaft, so use good quality biscuits, i use ch***is engineering, they seem to be the best ive used,

    and a pic of my 32's motor mounts.

    jeff
     

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  7. FiddyFour
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    i cant speak for clark, and i DAMN sure aint knowledgeable but. . . here goes :D

    looks to be 3/16" for the drilled arms, and 1/4" for the mating plates on the mill(s) itself.

    once again, the styling and attention to detail SHINES on another European build. . . always love to see the stuff you fellas across the atlantic come up with. amazing **** no doubt :cool:

    Jeff, this isnt the first time i have seen someone mention that these mount cusions dont hold up real well. i've seen a couple guys using some interesting materials to make thier own cusions in the same style as the early ford biscuit mount, some great some not so great. Jeff, you ever used vulcanized rubber (hockey pucks) as a cusion for an engine or trans mount? i remember seein specifically a hockey puck used here on the HAMB, but cant remember who's car it was . . . i always thought that a puck wouldnt have much give to it and would end up being about the same as hard mounting the mill to the frame? :confused:
     
  8. 38pickup
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    here are a few shows of the ones we made up for my 38 ford truck...
    It was fun getting around the 38 ford streering box :D

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  9. atch
    Joined: Sep 3, 2002
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    atch
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    i lifted this pic from the hamb quite a while back. don't remember who made them, but i'd sure like to know so that i can rename the .jpg file with the person's name. that way i'll be able to mentally give credit every time i see the pic.

    anyone remember?

    anyway, there's a bunch of great ideas and workmanship shown in this thread and on the hamb in general. my hat's off to everyone who's shown his/her handiwork here.

    ok; i give up. now the file is too large for the hamb, even though i stole it from here in the first place. maybe someone can find it and resize it. the mount was made to look factory original, including the rivets that were used to attach the half to the frame.

    it was created by one of the many great fabricators on here; maybe the Iona Rod Shop???


    2nd edit.

    ProEnfo resized the pic for me so here is what i was talking about.
     

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  10. ratstar
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    Dahlhjelm those look KILLER!!!
     
  11. Dahlhjelm
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    FiddyFour and Ratstar, Thanks!

    They are built to match the rest of the ch***i.. With an I profile look.
    I've built almost everything myself apart from the rearaxel, engine, ******, airbags, rims and drive shaft. I will soon start to build my own a-ford roadster body. I use low budget pars and build as much as possible myself since it's ment to cost 5000$ at top becouse im just 18 years old and dont got that much money.

    Here is some pictures of the rest.

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  12. Here's a couple shots of some I made for my nailhead. I used the stell backer from some sheared off stock mounts and fabricated the rest.

    Charlie
     
  13. atch
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    atch
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    here's the mount i was referring to in response #39 above:
     

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  14. FiddyFour
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    atch, yesir... credit where its due, and due it is indeed on the part of anything ionia does.
     
  15. Rex Schimmer
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    Dahlhjelm,
    Neat car! and excellent workmanship, land great looking. Just a quick suggestion on your front axle set up, don't forget to put in some caster, 5-7 deg should do. If you don't your rod will wander all over the rod. Again, great looking car and workmanship.

    Rex
     
  16. Ed ke6bnl
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    Well not as cool as some of your guys my first ever. made from trailer hitch reciever material, may be over kill. Ed ke6bnl ye it needs some lightening holes
     
  17. dezaster
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    from u.k.

    looks like the castors already there to me.

    i dont think he'd build all that to that level and miss out something like that!!!
     
  18. Dahlhjelm
    Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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    Your right! :) I've been using the book Hotrod ch***is by Tex Smith and it have been a great help. The camber and caster is set perfecly.
    It just looks wierd now when i doesnt have the wishbones mounted.
    Im planing to mount the two front airbags inside the frame at the rear of the rad shell and have two arms down to the wishbone mount. I've been drawing a steeringstsystem which i'vent seen before but some weeks ago Wheels " Swedens biggest hotrod & custom mag " dropped down in my mailbox and i saw that Chip Fooses P-32 had almost the exact the same steering as i draw months ago. So that was abit dissaponting. :(
     
  19. At the risk of boring some of you to death . . . and keeping in mnd all the new folks....


    An overall view of the mount in my 31 on 32 rails project.

    The component parts.

    Overhead view with tape measure.


    First pic, easy to figure out.

    2nd pic, 3/16" plate for the block flange (retained by two 71/16" bolts) 1 1/2" x .120 wall DOM tubing for the short horizontal run and a solid piece of 1 1/2" CR drilled for the 1/2" through-bolt.
    Note that the solid piece is recessed for the bolt head, adds a nice touch methinks.
    The cushion is UHMW plastic and there's similar cushion underneath.
    The through-bolt is retained by a nylock nut.
    I like using these for rubber mounts because you don't have to squash the rubber at all, just get the rubber snugged down and the bolt won't come loose due to the nylock nut.

    I made a similar set for my 32 and got carried away by trying to get too slick on it and used a 1/2" stud instead of a through-bolt.
    It's a pain in the backside cuz you have to lift the engine up fairy high just to slip in a new cushion.
    The mounts are working well on the 32, closing in on 45,000 miles.

    Went through three sets of rubber mounts, the Ch***is Research re-pro's lasted the longest, but they squashed down as well.
    Some of you may be thinking the late Buick - 455 @ 462" - may be doing the squashing, but these engines only weigh 15# more than an SBC if you install an aluminum intake.
    There's some added weight with a T-400 instead of the popular T-350, but it isn't much.

    UHMW biscuits are easy to make, one shot with a hole-saw, enlarge the center hole with a drill, clean up the edges and you're done.
    Make several from different thicknesses of the UHMW sheet so you can see how a different engine height will work.

    You don't neccessarily need the aluminum load spreaders.
    I thought I would, but found the UHMW supported the weight of the engine quite well.
    UHMW is not Teflon and is 70% stronger than Teflon from what I understand.
    And . . . as hard as UHMW is, it still cancels vibrational harmonics very well.
    Subjective opinion for sure, but the 32 seems smoother when driving than it did with the rubber biscuits - even before the rubber biscuits squashed....
     

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  20. Did I just miss them or hasn't Littlemans mounts been added here?? Those are some SWEET mounts!
     
  21. attitudor
    Joined: Sep 28, 2004
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    Zen and the art of motormounts...?

    Here're the mounts in my previous Model T with Cad Flathead and in my current Model A with SBC...
     

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  22. langy
    Joined: Apr 27, 2006
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    They are very neat, Similair to Foose's P thingy, Don't like it myself but the bracketry is awesome.

    Steve.

     
  23. kustombuilder
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    looks like Ionia Hot Rod Shop stuff to me. i might have even taken that pic. not sure but it is REAL familiar.
     
  24. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
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    from Novi, MI

    here is a killer motor mount from Sellers Equipped...


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  25. Sellers Equipped
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    HOOOOOOOOOOO! WiT It!..........!
     
  26. HotRodDrummer
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    That is one of our mounts...atch

    All the other mount makers kick ***!!
     
  27. atch
    Joined: Sep 3, 2002
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    atch
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    i thought so. really neat work; i like it.

    agreed!!!
     
  28. Gary N
    Joined: Aug 19, 2004
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    Ironworks: That is one beautiful car that you have there. Can you post more pics?

    Thanks! Gary
     
  29. atch
    Joined: Sep 3, 2002
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    atch
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    BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    While I was searching for motor mount pix to get ideas from I ran across this thread from waaaaay back. Newest post was a little over 10 years old.

    So there were a few other pix I gleaned from the hamb but surely there has been more beautiful motor mounts created in those 10 years. Please show us what you've done.

    b-t-w; we all sure miss C9 and his creative genius.
     
  30. DDDenny
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