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  1. cuznbrucie
    Joined: May 1, 2005
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    I need a recommendation here, guys...... I chose SEM Cl***ic Coat Midnight Black to dye my saddle tan leather back seat in my '95 Mustang Convertible.........I bought a nice set of mint black front seats on the Bay and need to dye my rear seat to match.......

    So I followed the directions to the letter using the SEM spray material and my seat came out a dark gray after three coats!!! I call them up and talk to some ******** *tech guy* who tells me that there are 2500 shades of black.......this color they call Midnight Black isn't even close.....

    So, the question is can anybody recommend a brand of leather spray that will dye my seats BLACK......as in really dark black black?

    I don't think I want to deal with SEM again......they advertise their Cl***ic Coat as able to *change or restore color* of leather and vinyl..........well their Midnight Black isn't black at all.......any help??

    Thanks in advance guys.....

    Brucie
     
  2. butch27
    Joined: Dec 10, 2004
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    PRODUCT 40 !!! I covered metallic blue with Light Gray 11 years ago using a foam brush.. it is used to restore Jags! I bought it from some place in New York that I found it Hemmings.
     
  3. Slate
    Joined: Dec 12, 2005
    Posts: 221

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    Brucie,
    SEM shouldn't have dealt with you like that. Any good company will tell you that to match a set of factory dyed seats, you need an actual sample (1x1 inch leather from a hidden area/excess). This is because over a run of seats the same color, there will be different lots that vary. Also, I am ***uming that the container was poured into another one and was well mixed, as the heavier pigments tend to settle in the container.

    I had this problem with some dark red seats (dyeing the rear to match some great Bay fronts). The first batch was off (too pink) and they remixed it, just a total PITA to sand off (14 hours for my rear seat!). Supposedly due to EPA regs, red is the hardest to match of any color. The second run was within a shade and close enough.

    Do this. Contact Leatherique at www.leatherique.com . DO send a sample (underside works well) to get a custom match. George (the owner) is a car guy and stands besides his stuff. Also, use the entire system of oil, cleaner, prep - these are great products. The oil turned my cardboard leather convertible leather (the top of the seat back) ****er soft after repeated applications. Finally, I used an airbrush from HF - no brushstrokes on my seats. Good luck!
     
  4. Mudslinger
    Joined: Aug 3, 2005
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    I have only used SEM black dye. I have used it over green, light blue and white. I never had any issues and didnt know they made different shades of black.
    I always just picked up the can that said black.
     
  5. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    Easy...
    Shoot everything in the interior with the same batch of dye/paint and it will all match.
     
  6. cuznbrucie
    Joined: May 1, 2005
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    Slate.....thanks for the info.....very reasonable.....I will explore what you've suggested......this can't be *Rocket Science*....

    CB
     
  7. Slate
    Joined: Dec 12, 2005
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    Brucie,
    1st - try to get SEM to fix it - email a photo comparing the color differences. I did and it made all the difference.
    2nd - see if they will custom match on a sample.
    3rd - if no satisfaction, try another company, such as leatherique using a custom match.
     
  8. 47bob
    Joined: Oct 28, 2005
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    So who the hell came up with 2500 shades of black, some politicon? It's either black or it's not.
     
  9. cuznbrucie
    Joined: May 1, 2005
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    ****in' A, 47Bob!!! My thought exactly......black is black! It is the absence of hue, tint, or color! It is black!

    CB
     
  10. Duplicolor vinyl paint. Black is BLACK!!! Used it on a dash. Prepped with wax/grease remover and painted. Was blacker than nighttime. Nice gloss, too.
     
  11. INXS
    Joined: Dec 3, 2005
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    Any Dupont jobber can mix you black vinyl paint. Good old code 99 black is a good true black and they can get the sheen you want depending on which vinyl additive they add.
     
  12. Groucho
    Joined: Dec 22, 2002
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    I've had great luck with SEM's Landau black (not too shiny or dull) over a pair of tan vinyl seats in a G***er 41 Willys i built a little while back. The significance of the G***er is that the car being so high, i had to rub my jeans pretty good against the dye getting in and out of the car for 3 years and not a bit rubbed off. And they were BLACK w/2 coats. I like to wipe the seats with a soaked rag with laquer thinner first
     
  13. hotrodA
    Joined: Sep 12, 2002
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    Used SEM's black on my tan ****** wagon seat I usta have in my roadster. Very black, covered in two coats, and held up for years with no top. Maybe a formula change?
     

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