Try doing it on a bike the SCTA 200mph club has some stupid rules when it comes to bikes. There are minimums that are higher than 200mph+break a record that are required to get in the "club". Pretty silly. anyway... I havent hit 200+ on any of my bikes... just a long course licensing p*** at 178 and change. Will get there some day though.
Youll never get the salt out of your blood or from underneath your car or truck either. You can spend 5 hours under there with a hose and 3 months later a big chunk will be under it. Not too bad if its dry but a mess when its wet. Hope for a huge rain storm on the way home! If youve never been there its a must see event. Its tough on aluminum big time. No place on earth like it for sunup... spectacular!
Chop; The SCTA has no control of the 200mph club. And do you think the minimums only apply to bikes? Or do you think they are just out to get you?
No one has more respect for the 2 guys then me. But looking back when I was a kid, reading about Bonneville , I would have never dreamed I could ever race there. Growing up in Indiana we always lived cars, but Bonneville might as well been on another planet! But I retired three years ago and built a salt car, with alot of help from my friends, went to Bonneville five months later. Thrill of a life time. So here is the ticket, do what feels good to you , if it is Bonneville ,get busy. Dont worry about the 2 club or picking a soft cl***. Just go fast and be safe!
I dont think anyone is out to get anyone... the minimums as they apply to bikes and the reason I was told they were enacted for bikes are straight up silly. The only reason I reference the 200mph club and SCTA in the same breath is because they are tied... 200mph Club will not recognize records set at the AMA motorcycle event.
I don't care what speed you run at Bonneville,or the lakes it is the thrill of a lifetime. My son and I had been many times, but to sit down and get strapped in, is something I can't explain. And ya, the saltwitch is a *****. You go with thoughts of doing everthing right and get humbled. As we did last year, you'll never understand untill you do it. We didn't, and we learned alot. We still have alot to learn but OH what fun.--TV
Thats not an eazy club to get into either, I think you were the first one in weren't you? And I think it's Cool.--TV
Yes I was first. Where is Dairy Valley? Can you come by here and pick up what you want before I take the Ply to the museum?
The Bean Bandits Vintage hammer Special rear engine modified roadster set two records at B'ville last August. Fabian Valdez set the record for D/GRMR (gas) at 202.942 and Adam Rogers set the record for D/FRMR (fuel) at 202.942. The 200mph Club guys said that they would have to set a record in those cl***es at something like 215mph + in order to get into the "200mph" Club. They had some kind of ****amamy reasoning behind this.
I still think your dad should have let me fire it up inside the tattoo show last year. Too loud he says .... Collin
I don't know who told you what but the minimums apply to cars and bikes. The reasoning is that going 201mph in a AA/FAlt on an open record wouldn't really be much of an accomplishment when A/FAlt is 236mph. Speedweek is a function of BNI. Perhaps you are confusing Bonneville with El Mirage which is an SCTA operation. There are 200 club members from other than Bonneville and the rules are made by the members. Check their web site for AMA information.
Hi Collin, thought that was you, just couldn't remember your name. (Bad memory for names is a condition I like to think I inherited from dad.) We did a ch***is dyno run February 3. It took Bryan and Walter darn near a week to recover from that. They said it kept blowing the exhaust collectors off the headers and that Strapped down and running 200 inside an industrial bay the sound was outrageous! Then on 4 Feb it was back in my garage when my neighbor, home from Cuba for a few days, fired up his Harley. So we opend the doors and fired up 1149. Drowned out that Harley racket real well. Mike
last I heard it was SCTA-BNI... just like their website says... thats what rule book BNI/USFRA use.... if there is any difference... let me know. I know the minimums apply to both cars and bikes, and both are silly. The club isnt called the "is it an accomplishment club" its called the 200MPH Club. It USED to be that you had to go over 200mph AND set a record... THAT is an accomplishment. If it was easy, everyone would do it. it aint easy. Now, its you have to go over 200mph AND set a record AND go as fast as WE(the club) think you SHOULD go in the cl***. pretty stupid. But its their club, and they can run it any screwed up way they want to. seems like some of the members got in under the old way (200+ and a record) and now want to keep others out. not aware of any other 200 mph clubs (perhaps DLRA has one)... if you know of one that is AMA specific... let me know.
on the flipside... we were sitting around in impound one day and come up with the "under 100mph" club... for those of us that have made the record books going "slow". Minimums were discussed... should someone be let in just because they went 99.999mph in 50cc SC-PG? or was that waaaaaaayyyy too fast for the cl***? a 50cc PG motor should top out at about 35-40mph... and will sandbagging on an open record be allowed? We dont want any trophy hunters from the 250cc cl*** running 50mph just to get a hat... we couldnt come up with the answers, left the salt for the night and headed back to the hotel for some wild wendover nightlife.
If someone has a rice burner that he thinks is fast, but not fast enough to make the number at a BNI or USFRA meet, or a FIM record, but finds that AMA has an open or soft record, should that person now expect the 2 club to use the slowest standard? There is an "Dirty 2 club at El Mirage, Maxton and Texas both have 2 clubs. Maybe one of those is a good bet.
has nothing to do with "rice burners".... harleys, guzzi's, vincents, Aprilia's, triumph's.... all brands run at AMA events. I personally run (or have run) Triumphs, Harleys, Guzzi's, Suzuki's, Yamaha's and an Aprilia on the salt... brand or country of origin mean little to me. BTW... the AMA adopted all of the SCTA/BNI/USFRA records as starting points, except where the old AMA LSR records were faster (from the 70's). You dont get a national record unless you break the club record. FIM tracks its own records and certifies true world records. There are on hand at the AMA event to certify those records. Should the 2 club accept someone in that runs at a SCTA/BNI/USFRA event, breaks the SCTA/BNI/USFRA record at over 200 and over the minimum but doesnt break the higher AMA National record?
I don't speak for the 2 club, but if you run over the minimum, and set a record it is my understanding that your in. Do you have other information? What kind of bike are you trying to enter the club with?
thats whats funny... I'm not. I dont run bikes that go that fast. If my 250cc M-PG hits 85mph I'm happy. my understanding is that the 2 club wasnt giving out hats to those that ran at the AMA event... but I see they put Chris Carr in the 3 chapter for running 350+ at the AMA event, so maybe they have changed the thinking on that... or maybe his case was one that was hard to ignore... i dunno. friends and people I have crewed for have both made it into the club, and been denied a hat (the same people, same bike, different cl***es in some cases). just seems silly, thats all.
I believe you are right that the 2 club has looked at and set rules in place that recognize the AMA records. Or will shortly. In the mean time, it's their club. They set the rules. If you wanted to join the VFW but were never in the service, you would just have to accept that your not going to get in. I wouldn't consider joining any club with standards low enough to admit me.
Mike, the Rear Engine Modified Roadsters are fairly comparable to a Lakester in form. The D/Gas record in Lakester is 254+. In Fuel it's 263+. The minimum in this case is really pretty soft when you think about it. For the record (the other kind), Fabian and Adam and the lads are good friends of mine and I am fairly confident they will achieve these speeds. If I recall, they aren't exactly running a "Killer" motor. By the way, I'll be in Phoenix in a couple weeks. You up for a beer? Wayno
Alan, Cris Carr got in the club on his FIM achievment, not the AMA. The club recognizes SCTA-BNI, USFRA, FIA & FIM records for membership. The club is hesitant to accept AMA records because of some certification issues. DW
Bonneville 200 Club, 243.015 East Coast 200 Club, 220.275 Texas Mile, 213.442 Still working on Lake Gairdner (meet cancelled this year...after we went 10,000 miles to get there) and El Mirage (kicked our **** twice...189 backward). If they ever run Muroc again I'd take a second mortgage on the house to try for it there. DF
3rd generation 2 club member. Grandson to Phil Freudiger, Son of Willie Freudiger. You only want to go faster! Freudiger & Cline racing "50"
I know this is an old thread and there may be something newer on this subject but this discussion made me think of a H.A.M.B. 200 MPH Club. Not to in any way to take away from the remarkable achievements of the record breaking members of the official 200 MPH Club but it wasn't always that way. For a long time you just had to go 200. So how about a group of H.A.M.B. folks that have gone 200 at a sanctioned race?
My friend Vince Norton, he's on here, got his RED HAT 2 years ago,with an engine we pulled out of an old Army truck! THANKS Chris
May of been mentioned but LTA or Loring Timing ***ociation may be the place for you to run Just google LTA LSR.
That would be a good idea but does it have to be in a HAMB-friendly car? I've run 225+ many times but that was in an '03 MG wagon built by SO-CAL Speedshop. That was back in '07 and '08 but nowadays I'm having much more fun driving with Ken Schmidt (Rolling Bones) in our flathead-powered '32 and '29 roadsters. Hopefully Keith Cornell (Rolling Bones) will be pushing 200 this year in his Y block-powered '32 3W. Speed is a cruel mistress though - 225 just isn't enough and I have a burning desire to go 250...as someone once said to me on my first trip to the salt - "You realise now that you're screwed? This is the beginning of the end". How right he was. Regards Jon'.
I remember that MG from '08. I don't know what rules there would be. I was thinking all that mattered was 200 mph. Way easier for some than others but so what? I'll never be a member I'd just like to build something that could p*** inspection and be able to make a run or two.
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