The "un-traditional" of "Traditional" Hotrods

my opinion:

anybody who hates somebody else's hotrod for one reason or another is missing the point. Just because its not your style or has something on it you dont like is no reason to hate. It sounds like you hate all the things that arent exactly the way you want it? I dont know.. anyway its not 1953 anymore. If I want to use a Wilwood hydraulic clutch to save myself the trouble of tracking down gennie shit then Im going to. Ill put 3 of them in and an Optima battery just to piss people off, but Ill have a cool car to me, that I built, in my era, the way I wanted it.

PS:just ordered a Drilled Super Bell axle for my 27T. Hope its not scratched when I get it


chris

 

I dont hate any style of Hot Rod or Custom. They are all cool in there own way.
One of my cars is what some people call a rat rod and if you want to hate it, Go ahead and beat yourself up mate.
Heres a pic so you can get really messed up.
I have intentionally put some stuff on the car that I know will get some people steamed up.
Hey call it a hobby of mine

 

I forgot to mention its got a Superbell and disc brakes front and rear
(Jag rear end)

 

What a bunch of chatty cathys. Leave it alone, traditional ,not traditional. Build what you want and fuck everyone else. Call it a pre whatever car who cares. PBR Fonzies never fail to amuze.

 

Thats the best reply EVER to most any rant on this board. AMEN brother!.

 

people who are so friggin ANAL about EVERY little thing being 100% period correct... especialy when they have'nt got a clue what truely is "traditional" (i'm not saying your in that boat). hey, you asked and it's the truth.

P.S. there are plenty of cars i won't spend too much time looking at but to pass by an otherwise interesting/cool/nice car because of one minor annoyance is pretty sad. you never know what you might have missed on said car.

 

nice commercial

 

Here we go again


Come back when you get over 250 posts then correct everyone on tradition.....

 

Wow, back in the day we spelled it "school", get with it....

 

I'll have to chime in and agree with 5window here but not necessarily on (just) the axles. he's taking alot of flack for his opinion on some of the parts that a majority of you guys put on your cars. It seems that many of you guys think it's alright to put an obviously brand new piece on your car and call it traditional. aren't most of these new I-beams cast? how you guys trust a cast front axle is beyond me. Fords piece even 75 years old is better than that quality wise and worth the extra money from a safety standpoint. All that braking force on a piece of cast iron makes me cringe! now don't start whining about not being able to afford it either. I've got a 28 roadster and a 32 cabriolet. both have 100% authentic period pieces on them. mid to late 50's stuff. original frames, one 32 axle and one 33-4, stock 32 wishbones, stock 32 k member,39 trannies, torque tube 47 rears, real f1 shock mounts, 56 truck steering boxes, and OMG the devil of all devils! GENERATORS!!!!!!
I'm 27 and by no means wealthy. hell I don't even qualify as middle class. I work scrounge and dig for parts. it's too easy to order from a catalog and try to justify it because it costs half what you see on greedbay. screw ebay! all those parts are still out there at a fraction of the cost (of your precious catalog too)! you just have to look for em.

before you get all self righteous about it being your car you build it how ya want, let me tell ya I don't care about your car. I build my cars how I want them and to my standards. I've found that most people don't know the difference between a real period correct car or one that has concessions made for "reliability or drivability" but I notice these things. I don't understand why people make them because too me that would be like painting over the mona lisa because the paints available today are brighter. It would bother my perfectionist nature to drive a car that I know I tried to make a certain style and failed at.

the following is a list of things that I see on lots of "period" cars that makes me lose interest.

Alternators
any auto other than a hydro
t5 swaps
open drive banjo rears
huge headlights
cowl steering or straight pipes in a street car
any steering box post 1960
open wheel car 2 inches off the ground with a 3 foot kickup front and rear.
finished interior on a primered car
fabricated model a frames
tube shocks without dust covers
any "fake" item to cover another ie buick drum covers
sbc with valve cover vent or PCV valve.

and that list is not including the obvious non traditional items and shoddy build techniques that are found everywhere lately

so now that I've pissed off more than half of you, remember it's just one assholes opinion and I didn't build, pay for, or drive your car

 

i dont know why i read this shit and aggrevate myself... all my cars are "traditional" biult with what i can afford, and what gives me the best performance. if my hot rod or custom was in a show and someone was standing there nit picking it like an old yenta about its axle , or radials ide hand them there ass!!

 

i hate it when people use "chebby" instead of chevy.

 

I like Hot Rods.

 

...I feel a rather large Traditional Poo coming on...

 

It seems to have become a tradition to whine about tradition.

 

I tried using an old axle that someone dropped.....IT SUCKED! I trusted that the axle was good and didn't check the kingpin bosses for slop. Caused me a death wobble that haunted me for quite a while. If you see one of my cars in the future keep walkin cause I'll be usin new axles. I like drivin my cars.

How many of the "real" traditionalists really drive their cars. I don't mean around the block either.
Clark

 

revkev...you don't like cowl steering or straight pipes on a street car?....guess you don't like the Spencer car? Doesn't get any more "traditional" than that!
Clark

 

How much do you charge to drop an axle?

The other folks I know of that are dropping axles are charging $400+ and usaully require you to provide a "core" axle. You can get a brand new SuperBell or Magnum axle for about $250. How is this cheaper?

 

the car did not originally have cowl steering. as far as pipes, I mean straight individual open headers.

 

Maybe he couldn't find jeans with the correct inseam measurement.

 

For what its worth, I know I'm still learning alot about different axles and setups. I've irritated several of the old timers here with some of the ideas and things I thought about on my way to designing my '29 Dubble A truck.

However, my question is this: How can you tell - merely by looking at it - who makes an axle? Does Superbell or Magnum place a big ass manufactures stamp on the axle to make it stand out, or are the just cast or milled differently?

As for traditional or kustom, I'm building my Dubble A for me, with parts I know and trust, as well as easily aquire no matter where I go. Now, for the most part, my plans are to keep it appearing stock on the outside, but for what its worth, it'll be an "Oreo" when I'm through. Old on the outside, new on the inside. If'n ya don't like it, turn your head when I cruise past. Even if you do turn your head, to me that is still a form of a compliment.

 

You ask,,,,,so here goes,,,

What bugs me is 18 year old know it alls!


Your generation did not invent HOT RODS or TRADITIONAL CARS but keep trying to tell us ol' greybeards how to build cars that you will approve,,,I could care less.

I like old cars,traditional cars,custom cars,hot rods,and even traditional styled cars(this one is my new category, it includes cars with SUPERBELL axles),,,

I am not one to tell other people how to build their cars,,,I know what I like and I build them my way.

I guess some would say if your tires were not made back in the day it ain't traditional,,,how about the glass or radiator,,,

sure they have repop radiators and tires to look like the old ones,,,BUT according to some that cry FOUL,,,THEY AIN'T TRADITIONAL BECAUSE,,,bullshit!

BTW,,,I have a traditional mordrop axle under one of my cars,,,I also have a superbell under another.,,,If ya don't like it,,,please don't look! HRP

 

that is exactly what I feel with this post... its like the movie Clerks and the Chewleys Gum rep...

 

Car shows suck...

Try figuring out what axle a guy has at 70+ on a country road...

(PS: They've had dropped tube axles like the one on the roadster in the pic available on the aftermarket since the 40's)

 

We've been through this shit over and over again....We build shit in the traditional style. If you can make it safer and more reliable with something that is newer, than do it. If you assholes that keep your head buried so far up your rear, that you can't see that TRADITIONAL is a descriptive term, and that the description itself is a moving target...bury it when you walk by someone elses ride and keep your bellyachin to yourself. See below!!!!!

 

Simply stated, I like what I like, and I would like to think I have some sense of aesthetics. Even though I see rides that border on ridiculous, I don't take issue with them. There are those that follow a purist "formula" and others who do not. I drive a genuine "old school" roadster that was originally built in 1962. It looks like it. A lot of folks dislike it for that very reason. I just keep on driving and enjoying it! I've never needed a set of rules or consensus to "guide" me through life. Let it be! It is what it is! they are what they are! There are as many different tastes, themes, and interpretations out there as there are drivers to drive them. It's all good. I don't take issue with it. I PREFER what I see and hear on this board. So be it. Cruise on!

 

HRP, I like your new category. traditional "styled" cars. Works for me.

btw. just to clarify, even though I may not like certain specific items on a car it won't stop me from looking or make me feel the need to tell the owner about things I don't like. only time I've ever told someone something negative about their car is when I hear someone claim they built a car themselves when I know for a fact they didn't.

 

By the way mr tradition plugging his business isnt an alliance member either. This looks more like spam all the time..
Dave

 

Wow, another thread on what's 'traditional' on the HAMB. Who'da thunk it?

I've always looked at 100% period-correct cars as being cooler than mix-n-match types. Gotta' respect the commitment it takes to be a purist.

That being said, I've stuck electronic ignition and an alternator on my '49 Plymouth. My '54 Dodge has (or had, until the motor came out for extensive repair) an M1 tunnel ram and stepped headers, but no other stuff made since 1975 under the hood. And I bought disc brakes to put on it. So it's no 'period piece', either.

While we're all ragging on what we do and don't like, I'm not really fond of reading a post about a car, and then seeing where someone else has to nitpick it. Same shit I ran into at car meets and drive-in cruises. If you don't have something positive to say... then maybe you should just wait until you do. For the guys who feel compelled to walk up and tell me "you know, you should (insert automotive improvement to my car here)", I think you should just write the fucking check to make it happen.

Wow, my post just turned into a 'period piece', too. Time to pull the string and cram a fresh one in!

-bill

 

Self promotion indeed,,,also the late Jim Ewing started Superbell alxe Co. around 1975. HRP