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3x2 & multi-carb intakes with non-trad carbs

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Abomination, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. Abomination
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    All right, let's see some multi-carb intakes with non-trad carbs!

    I'm doing even more Stromberg WW experiments. Many of you may have seen the posting I did in the "wanted" section begging for more 2-bbl Stromberg WWs from the 50s & 60s:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2016516

    I was just curious as to what others have done with carbs OTHER than the 2Gs, 97s, or Mopar 6-pack stuff. Anybody lse get creative?

    Maybe if some pics get posted I can get some more inspiration for this. AT the moment, I'm working with a 3X2 intake set up for 3-bolt carbs, and these 4-bolt ones will bolt down on the back two holes (the butterflies match up), if I center punch and tap new holes for the front, attaching them with longer studs/nuts. They're a bit long, and just don't quite clear.

    I'm thinking of vetting some of Vern Tardill's 4" 3-bolt risers and putting 3-bolt to 4-bolt carb adapters on them, but I may have to mill the ends at an angle to get the clearance I need. I'm not just fighting tor room here, I'm also trying to keep the float bown of the front carb away from the upper radiator hose, to.

    Yeah, I could've usede 2Gs and been done with it, but it wouldn't be near as fun or creative, and when I was done I couldn't brag that "I kicked that project's ASS!" - I mean, come on - can ANY of us admit defeat to an inanimate object? HELL NO.

    So pics, suggestions, etc - hook me up, guys. If y'all ask me, I can probably get up off of my ass and take a few pics.

    By the way, what's the closest you've ever had the upper radiator hose from a float bowl?

    ~Jason
     
  2. Saaty Meteor 100 fuel injectors. In truth, they are more like a constant CFM carb than an injector; they're like a prehistoric Predator carb. These have a 2 bolt base, but Gordy Cushman fabbed adaptors to run them a 4-bolt Offy intake atop my Pontiac 389.


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  3. banjorear
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    Damn, that is cool!
     
  4. Abomination
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    Wood. These give me some serious wood.


    ~Jason


     
  5. SinisterCustom
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    I always liked the little Weber 34 ICT/ICH carbs.....one barrels, 2 bolt pattern, @ 150cfm....no chokes on the ICT's....easy to tune, have a vintage look, and are cheap.
    Common for use as duals on VW's, forklifts and other small engines.....
     
  6. Redneck Smooth
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    from Cincinnati

    I've got a 240z and I've been thinking about running a set of SUs on an inline motor for awhile...
     
  7. Twisted6
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    I have a 3x4 intake on my 250 But sorry they are 450 holleys. But i could still post a pick? it you want?????
     
  8. xderelict
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    I'd like to see it.Please?
     
  9. Twisted6
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    I hope i am linking these photos right.I am still trying to get used to this /how this board works with photos. I built the intake and I am working on a few others One which will be a alum 3x4 to replace my steel 3x4. The alum one will also have a removable top plate so that I can change set-ups. The Hood is a ALL Steel stock Hood which The Flames are embossed right into it.( not welded into Or Bondoed) Bondo/plastic is for Vette's :) Steel is for Steel :)
     

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  10. Abomination
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    THAT IS BADASS!!!!

    ~Jason

     
  11. Hey Abom,

    Do a search on Stromberg WW man...you'll see a techj article I did for it some time ago. I run a pair of WWs on my blown Flathead and they run likne a champ !!

    Rat
     
  12. Twisted6
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    Thanks for the imput guys.Glad you all likem. When I get around to painting the hood It will also be painted with flames So it should??? give a pretty neat/cool 3D look?????. With the imbossing under the hood looks just a cool but i don't have a pic of that just yet anyway.
    But i sure do get alot of comments at car shows Or other event.
     
  13. mustangsix
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    Mikuni sidedrafts from GSXR bikes.
     

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  14. Abomination
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    Now THAT is what I'm talking about. A nice multi-carb setup with bike carbs... they're cheap, easy to get, and the CFMs per-cylinder are easy to figure. This is the same exact setup I've had in mind for probably every inline engine I've ever had!

    Wicked intake, too...

    ~Jason



     
  15. Abomination
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    And they're cheap as hell, aren't they? I love 'em. Hell, my avatar is one. And for some reason, nobody wants 'em, either - it's like they're a "throw away" carb!

    I indeed saw that article, mate. And it is a beaut!
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96174

    I'm a heavy poster at the 318 Poly sites, and have seen that poly-powered roadster of flatoz's old man. I'm not sure if he had a 3X2 with WWs or not...

    Are you running them progressive?

    ~Jason


     
  16. Powerband
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    I guess these are actually traditional but you don't see 3X1's very often. Here's the '61 Comet - Road Rod with Clifford Performance built 250 six wiith Offy intake. I have a fetish for multi-1904 series Holley carbs especially the glass bowl ones. I started picking up a bunch to pick the best parts. I test and tune them individually first on a stock 170 six in a '63 Wagon.

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  17. Abomination
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    Man, I dig those a LOT. Seriously.

    I don't know why there aren't more 1-bbl carbs out there being used in multi-setups. And I completely understand your fetish. :)

    One thing I'd love to see is when in '68 Honda bought two or three brand new Impalas and tweaked the heads and ran 2 of those weird 3-bbl carbs on custom intakes and piped out custom exhausts. I heard they increased horsepower AND fuel economy by a huge margin - huge enough for me to think it's an urban legend (50% plus).

    Anybody heard of this, or seen pics?

    ~Jason

    PS: I actually like to see multiple motorcycle carb setups on a I-6 or the like every once in a while. I've always thought that they were cool... but that's an awful lot of small parts to keep in good shape...




     
  18. Clark
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    I plan on running a pair of Stromberg Aerotype carbs on my nailhead. I figure it is what came on the Buick. the average guy would buy the intake and just have to buy the second carb.

    I also have 3 Marvel schebler carbs. They were an aftermarket replacement for 97's,94's and other carbs. They have a 2 barrel base that goes up to a single barrel carb. Sorta cool.
    Clark
     
  19. Abomination
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    My thinking, exactly. I'm running an old Mopar, and the WW is what it came with. I couldn't stand to see 'em sit on the shelf, because they're good, good, carbs.

    Those Marvels ARE pretty cool. You should post a pic!

    ~Jason

     
  20. TKuhl
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    from Pac NW

    Dang! Those 250's look bad ass fellas. I put a 2X2 setup on my 250. I used two progressive carter/weber 2bbls off a early 90's Ford Escort based on Langdons recomendations. Did you have to build those motors up pretty solid to take all that carb? I just put a mild cam in mine, and it is working out great once it gets off the line and gets the rpms up a little. Sorry about the pic, I cant find a better one right now but can take one tomarrow.

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  21. Twisted6
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    Well my 64SS chevyII 250 block is Stock hehe Stock for the way I built it. OK So it's really far from being stock. The 250 is .030 over started out with a 307 .030 over 12-1 the piston was milled .225 to clearance the valves.Cam was a 586/607 lift. that was a 17yr old plus motor. The New Fresh Motor will be running a close to .700 lift cam 12.5 /13-1 compression, an a freshly lump ported head flowing @ just over 250cfm in. and around 180 cfm on the ex.

    The old 17 yr plus motor was a daily drive for the most of it's life time. Till i started making gear changes. But nearing it's rebuild time it
    ran a best of 14.3 in 3rd gear.But if it had the right gears in at the time of the build it should have been running in the high 12s or very low13s.
     
  22. Paul
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    on a lark I used 2 WWs on my Stude, it runs like a champ too
     
  23. Bigcheese327
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    So which is it, a Lark or a Champ? :D

    -Dave
     
  24. Abomination
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    You know, I've noticed that I have a lot more in common with Studebaker people with regards to my multiple WW thing... especially Australian Studebaker and Holden people!

    ~Jason


     
  25. Abomination
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    BTTT for the afternoon folks!
     
  26. Abomination
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    You need to - that's INSANE!!!


    For you guys that are interested in what he's talking about, here's a quote (click his link in the quoted message below for pics - it's badass):

    "Reverse Flow Induction Small Block Chevy

    Runs on E85 uses Flathead V8 Crab distributor (with original points), 2 racks of Honda 750 motorcycle carbs, remote water pump, and remote radiator - No external moving parts."

     
  27. Abomination
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    BTTT for the evening crowd
     
  28. RichFox
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    This is pretty rare
     

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  29. Abomination
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    Sweet Jesus!

    I love the air cleaners - can you expand a little bit about it? Is this on your garage? If so, you're my hero!

    ~Jason


     
  30. That shit's BADASS!
     

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