demon 98's.....and the new rod and custom

Hey too bad you'll never be someone like skratch or chip, so why dont you just build a car with a propeller.......................

 

Hey great, sorry, I didnt know I was talking to a movie star- expert, I thought hot rods derived from normal, regular looking guys, that liked speed and wanted to go fast, well I guess I was wrong again, Oh yeah, Dont ***ociate all this tatoos from head to toe, Iron crosses torch cut into frame brackets, bomber seats, sans floor and interior, intake stacks, zoomie headers, aircraft rivets all over the place, with early hotrods, because that isnt the way it was, You guys are making all this stuff up as you go, I'll call it old hotrods 2007, and thats fine, Dont get me wrong, It's alot of work and I can appreciate most of it, just not my cup of tea, I'm a bodyman fabricator for over 30 years, and wasn't born yesterday on this stuff, My cars are period correct, and yeah ill be an ***hole about it, sorry.

Besides If thats the way it was, I think there would be alot of older guys and girls walking around with tatoos all over there body, I dont see them, unless they wash off, well i could be wrong there again, I know nothing about tatoos, Yeah compe***ion cars used aircraft seats, and aircraft aerodynamics for bonneville cars,but not hotrods for the street, most had full interiors with beautiful laquer jobs on the outside. As far as the carbs, for a traditional period car there not going to get the job done, sorry, you might want to rethink your thoughts on that one, unless you dont build the kind of car im talking about, I guess they"l run for the guys that cant get a 97 working right, me Ill keep all my old ****, including my 97's, these new carbs wont go on my cars, but hey, remember for every seat there's an ***, I will say I like looking at the stuff being built now rather than 20 years ago, but ill still walk over and look at a real hot rod first. before anything else.

 

Those look like the Demon 2 barrel, 4 bolt carb with a 3 bolt base and an air horn like adapter to the old round style. Looks like a half-*** attempt to me.

I would have expected better from BG.

 

Guys we're trying to bring something into the market place that has a similar feel to the original, but still goes along the lines of what we do. These carburetors will use conventional modular style carburetor metering blocks, and tuning components. This means you can get the jets, power valves, and gaskets just about anywhere to fine-tune. Plus you'll be able to run 6 or 7 lbs of fuel pressure without flooding over the N&S ***emblies.

Please keep the feed back coming, we are listening and try to answer the demands of our customers if we can.

 

Will these be available individually??? In both models (primary/secondary)?
CFM?

 

Yes, they will be available seperately. We'll be offering a primary carburetor (with idle mixture circuits), and a Secondary (no idle mixture Screws). They'll both retail at $395.95.

 

that setup looks pretty good. will these bolt to intakes designed for 3 bolt strombergs?

 

Yes, they will have the standard 3-bolt pattern.

 

Wait a minute. now your rippin on the wrong crowd. they are "tv stars" because they are very good at what they do, oh and i know about a dozen early drylakes racers with tattoos, yeah they got em' around 1945, anyways you build your cars "period correct" you say, well sorry to tell you that all your tires you are driving on are brand new from let me guess?..........coker. oh and your NEW plug wires, and your New hypertectic pistons, and you are probobly running superbell axles underneath your "period cars"......im shure i can get chip on here to shut ya down better, but i gotta go to work. oh hey you think your car is fast?????ill race you with my sbc in my coupe, yes the motor is a 58'. and your flattie wont have a chance...............didnt hotrodding evolve because of speed and the young guys only cared to go faster? thats what i thought?!

 

Guys, that's the nice thing about building a "Hot Rod" we can all build what we like within our own budgets. Not everyone can afford to have a car from Chip or Troy, and not everyone would want one.

Think about it, if we all like the same stuff, every car out there would look exactly the same.

Makes me think of a Model T....

Any color you want, as long as it's black....

 

Hey now... Be nice, I have two black Model T's and most likely the third will be black too.

The carbs look good. Yeah, they aren't 97's, but if you had gone for that same "look" guys would be *****in that you tried to copy 'em and most likely the same guys that hate em now would hate em then too.

 

Thanks... Variety is the ****e of life, or so they say!

 

Each carburetor will be rated around 215 cfm, they will operate at 6 to 6.5 psi, and they will be sold singly. Two configurations will be available: one will function as a primary carburetor and feature a choke, idle-speed adjustment, and idle-mixture adjustment. The other will operate as a secondary carburetor with neither choke nor idle-mixture adjustment. This arrangement is similar to our successful SixShooter set-up. The '98 will also employ many commonly available service parts.

 

Actually neither carburetor will come from the factory with a choke installed. You will be able to purchase an optional Electric, or Manual Choke.

 

One last thing.....the secondary carbs, do they have power valves? And at what rating? seeing that these will be used in multiples....And the secondary carbs, they will have tight fitting ****erflies to the bore??? I'm sure this has all been covered.....just curious I guess...

 

Can't answer on the Power Valve on the "Secondary" carburetors yet.

Yes, they will have thicker ****erfly's to seal up better for multilple carburetors.

 

these is an amazing thread..here we have the actual tech from BG.and knowing that... you could ask and get the best info and performance on these carbs.where and when could that ever happen...

thanks again ryan for the hamb.

 

I don't see the fuss here....they are not as pretty as a stromberg or holley 94....but they are a damn sight prettier than a rochester 2 brl !
besides...I see an after market oportunity making parts for them that look more traditional. They ought to run very nicely. When you think about it...we are lucky someone is developing carbs for us...considering everything is EFI now. Thanks BG!

 

Ditto...very cool of BG to come here and help answer a few questions.
I'd still prefer 97's, but trying to get good cores to build is getting $$$, and these are WAY better than using gutted 97's with EFI.
Long live the carburator.......

 

Kudos to BG for developing these.

Right now our options are limited to either pieceing together old junk, (of which the supply of decent old junk is drying up fast), buying new repop 97s (at 450 bucks each), or use a 4 barrel (yuck) and cover it up with a "cool" air cleaner, and hope no one notices.

If you're able to keep these affordable, flexible and modifiable (SP?) I think you'll have a hit.

Since another company owns the Stomberg brand & design, I'm sure you can't knock them off directly and they wouldn't be as serviceable as the program you're developing.

So the ball's in your court now. You can either decide to sell a few pricey BG 98s or a ton of moderately priced ones.

I for one can't wait to see the production model and pricing.

 

Thanks for the feedback. Even if we could, just re-pop the originals, it wouldn’t fit in with what we do. As popular as our “Old-School” Six-Shooters have been, and with all of the questions about carburetors from guys like Skratch this is what prompted us to leap in and make the investment to do this. We know they’re not going to be everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s OK too there’s more than enough business out there for everyone. We’re just wanting to offer a good product at a fair price.

 

Thanks for chiming in. This thread needed you before it became the typical HAMB ******* match...

 

Keep the info coming....Im interested too.

 

Call me "newstalgic" if you want but I've had nothing but good thoughts about those demon 98's. Can't wait to get my hands on them.

 

What about running these in a 2 carb setup... Would y ou have to run a 2 Primary carbs then?

 

One Primary carb (with idle circuit), & one Secondary carb (no mixture screws).

 

Thirdyfive, Do you mean to imply that there are posts on here by opinionated, uninformed HAMBers that cut people and products to shreds just to be part of the discussion ? If so, I'm truly shocked, never would have thought it from such a fine group of experts.

Frank

 

Great thread, my R&C issue left me with more questions, and sure enough there's a thread on the HAMB with posts from guys who work for the mfgr....gotta love this place...

Personally, I think they look a little bit too hi-tech for a '50s style rod, but you guys at BG did a good job on this product. I would run them on my coupe in a heartbeat.

One thing that struck me first, the carbs are really close, almost looking "molded" together, that's a big departure from the look of old-school multi-carb setups.

 

Now these carbs are different, they don't have the molded-together look??

 

This version is what I was talking about. Are there two versions?