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  1. streetfreakmustang
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    ...vote for! Don't want to bring up politics on this site but this affects the car hobby.

    England and Europe wants to ban all sports cars and any car that goes over 101 miles per hour to save the environment. Don't think this cannot happen over here. This country is rapidly going towards a nanny state. If they can ban backyard barbeques (Kalifornication) they can ban your Hot Rod.

    Republican or Democrat it does not matter anymore.

    Read this article and get your eyes opened.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&sid=aijQ0.2BMGw8&refer=home
     
  2. wvenfield
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    It's sort of a misstatement to say that England and Europe wants to ban sports cars. A small handful of loonies want to. We have them here also.
     
  3. DE SOTO
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    Ban Back Yard BBQs ,, WHAT ?

    Does that include yer House Fire Place ?
     
  4. mustangsix
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    A complete ban in 2013? Stupid people....don't they realize that it will all be irrelevant after the comet strikes the earth in 2012?:eek:
     
  5. pitman
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    Quote: Besides, the brunt of government limits on energy use may well fall on the world's poorest nations, which need more energy -- thus generating more carbon dioxide -- to provide lighting, refrigeration, harvesting, water purification and transportation.
    End of Quote
    Doron, (the author) rhymes with another word. Any responsible writer would not use divisive forms of xenophobic speech, to draw readers to a mis-directed subject. Mis-directed because, in reading the above quote, his intention seems to be to tell us of "other" government interventions. Land of the free? Gov. telling us precisely what cars are possible to drive? Historic precidence tells me otherwise. Good to tell us what others are, or are not, thinking. Thanks.
     
  6. Jeff Norwell
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    Ever see a 747 load up before take off?
    Just think about the fuel burn on them babies.
     
  7. streetfreakmustang
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    10-15 years ago I would have said the same thing. That being said today we have kids being taught/indoctrinated that cars and internal combustion engines are bad. Ever read a current public school science book? Scary stuff.
    We also have a large voting populace that votes based upon emotion rather than facts-soccer mom's being a prime example.

    One thing that is for sure. Whenever a politician tell you "it's foooor theee childreeeen" you can bet on two things: Your taxes are going up and you are loosing freedoms.
     
  8. Bumpstick
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    I'm wary of who I vote for but not about cars! 3610 and counting!!!
     
  9. SinisterCustom
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    Governments don't like it's population dying.....it affect's their income/taxes..
    They'll introduce what they think will minimize that....keep ya "safe".....the government gets RICHER the longer they keep ya alive......
     
  10. Chris Casny
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    Too late, this country is in a nanny state already.
    There are more restrictions in the US, about everything, than any other country I've been to (about 50 so far).
    I really doubt the Germans and Italiens are going to let this happen, they love their fast cars waaaaaaayyyyyyyy to much.
     
  11. BigRed390
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    That, sir, is a VERY valid point. They may mandate extreme emissions restrictions, but they won't under any circumstances get rid of their fast cars. It's a source of national pride to those guys. Engineering is held in much higher regard over there than it is here.
     
  12. streetfreakmustang
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    ..or another way. An open porous border.
     
  13. streetfreakmustang
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  14. Chris Casny
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  15. Silhouettes 57
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    YEA!! What he says!!!:eek: 2012....
     
  16. Shaggy
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    if they want to stop C02 they can stop breathing, Ill help them even :)
     
  17. TINGLER
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    Someone should ban this lake. It's pumping out so much CO2 that its killing the trees around it.

     
  18. kustombuilder
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    WOW! very interesting stuff.
     
  19. bustedlifter
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    As government expands, liberty contracts.
     
  20. It's always been my understanding that a properly tuned automobile with little or no emissions controls emits no more pollution than any other car. The key is to have the vehicle tuned properly and performing complete combustion. Now which one is more likely to be kept in proper state of tune - a $100,000 sports car, or a $500 4-cylinder beater with 250,000 miles on it?

    The more expensive the car, the higher the sales tax a government can collect.

    And it continues to amaze me how many of these environmental clowns don't understand basic earth science. Trees and plants use CO2 the same way animals and people use oxygen. They thrive on it. Additional CO2 is not some huge problem that needs to be solved. Plant a few more trees -
     
  21. Brad54
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    Of course it's a concern. Never understimate the stupidity of crowds being led by a bunch of politicians and people with agendas that have good PR behind them.

    For cars that require smog testing, there are already stringent laws on the books in many, many places that require a VISUAL inspection--doesn't matter if the vehicle passes the test and meets or beats the required readings; if it fails that visual inspection, it fails the test, regardless of what it does at the tail pipe. Point out a more blatant bit of "feel good" legislation that's been done for our own good.

    The problem with government, and society, today is that it wants everything "fair," and everybody has to be "equal." To make everyone equal, you need to lift up the poor, by knocking down the rich. That, and everything is a knee-jerk reaction now-adays. We have the technology to report that a child was killed at a little league game because a wild pitch hit him in the face; That one-in-a-million shot results in the million kids who play little league baseball injury-free each year now have to have a full face mask on their batting helmet.
    It's the same mindset that hauls a 6 year old out of class because he chased a little girl around the playground and tried to kiss her, calling it sexual harassment.
    It's the same mindset that wouldn't let fire fighters fly an American Flag on their trucks after 9/11, for fear of offending foreigners in our own country.

    Never, never underestimate the stupidity of the general public, when they're being led by politicians with an agenda and good PR.

    I just read in the paper an hour ago that IKEA is charging a nickle a bag for plastic shopping bags, and that San Francisco and other California towns are enacting bans, because these bags are huge sources of pollution and land-fill matter. Sounds like a good idea! Let's get those bad, bad bags out of the stores. But 15 years ago, those wonderful plastic bags were the answer to the question of how to stop the senseless killing of millions of trees to produce recycleable, renewable and biodegradeable brown paper grocery sacks.

    For years, we've been hearing how the US should invest in alternative fuel sources. Now we're ramping up for Ethanol, and the cry is that it's going to divert US corn from poor countries whose governments can't feed their own citizens. We solve one problem, and then another problem--still our blame--is pointed out. It's not that the greenies don't like our pollution, it's that they don't like our lifestyle. We figure out a way to burn cleaner, renewable gas in our SUVs, and they find another problem...the problem they have with us isn't our SUVs (or hot rods), it's our affluence. If that wasn't the case, the US, which actually has one of the best environmental records in the world, wouldn't be targeted while India, China, Russia and all these other 3rd world nations are given a polluting pass.

    It's not the pollution of the west, it's the affluence. Poor people don't drive jet skis, fly on air planes or drive fast cars and SUVs.
    -Brad
     
  22. mazdaslam
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    12/21/12.........No Christmas that year:p .Do your hotrodding NOW!!
     
  23. LUX BLUE
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    Dang Brad! You're all smart and stuff!
     
  24. hellonwheels
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    Environmentalists are so worried about auto emmisions, yet they couldn't stop the Texas legislature from passing a bill to allow a whole slew of brand new coal-burning power plants to be constructed soon in a town near you. You think taking a few fast cars off the road is gonna make any difference at all? Wonder how many millions of tons of pollutants those suckers will spew into into the Texas sky in the next 50+ years?

    Can't wait to get my Pontiac-powered F100 on the road. Its gonna drink yummy 93 like a four-year old drinks Kool-Aid!!! YEA FOSSIL FUELS!!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!!
     
  25. rusty210
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    Brad54 is my hero...
     
  26. LUX BLUE
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    at least when the hippies come to lynch us, we know, for sure, we can outrun them.
    at least from gas station to gas station.:D
     
  27. Funniest part of this is in this area, the grocery stores and some of the bigger department stores have a big can by the door you can stick your old bags in, where they go off to be recycled. You'd think someone could figure that out in San Francisco, too, but I guess they're too busy sticking something else into a different kind of can.
     
  28. streetfreakmustang
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    Was it one of these boys? His dad had a track record of sexual harrasment. Like father like son.
     

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  29. Why, does a lazar beam aim at the ozone after 102 MPH?
     

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