What happened to the Tulsa Plymouth?

So what's the latest poop on the Tulsa Plymouth? Did they feed it to the crusher and send the POS to Pittsburgh, or what ? I guess old Boyd could stick it on his lawn and plant flowers in it. Inquiring minds want to know......

 

the contest winner was dead, thats all i heard, i guess his family has it now, i'd like to know also

 

we gave the guy from old cars weekly a bunch of crap so he hasn't been keeping us up to date....

 

last I heard, it was still rusty.

 

Not HAMB members

 

The last info I saw was that parts were falling off of it while it was sitting there.

 

Did they wash the mud off and after they turned off the hose find nothing left?

 

They found the dead guy's closest living relative, which was his 93 year old aunt in Maryland. She was thinking of giving the car, or what's left of it, to a museum. She has until September to decide.

 

Somebody just wash the damned thing and post a picture already! LOL

 

I think they should build a glass trailer for it (think TV Tommy) and take it around the country on display. I would like to see it.

 

it would fall apart worse than the Mysterion

 

I talked to Boyd's truck driver at GG Nashville a few weeks ago & he said that Boyd got sick in Tulsa & had been sick ever since. I told him that I'd have gotten sick too.

They should bury it again.

JH

 

Bury it again with Boyd in it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2042956


Ol' Matt has moved on to a new venture now

 

It looks likes most 1957 Plymouths I've seen! Here is a link http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2007/06/well_now_its_of.html

Dan Marvin, Owner
Exeter Auto Supply

 

i second that one!! avoid the boyd!

 

dang . that is exactly my thoughts too.

 

Probably because he couldn't buy it and turn it into a billet barge.

 

It needs to be soaked in vinager for a few days...then...good as new!!

 

Maybehave em put the POPE in it for effect?

 

found some nice clear close up shots on this link on page 4. You can really see how bad she really is.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/batesline/sets/72157600369994474/

 

I don't think even the POPE can distract anyone from how awful it looks.

But then again I'd rather see the car in person than the Pope....ooooo....now I'm going to hell.

 

Somewhere in this there is a joke about boyd and "pope-to bismol" but I'll let someone else figure it out.

Well why not, the car already went to hell...

 

WHY does she have until September? If it's her car, can't she take all the time she wants making a decision?

 

as if you weren't before.....

 

I know its old news and an overstated comment, but its really a shame that they didn't seal it better or at least put a sump down there. I recently heard that the courthouse next to where the car was buried has had a sump in their basement for decades, and that Tulsa experienced a real bad rain/flood back in 58. There's a good chance water had been sitting in there since that time.

 

lets not forget that the winner also gets 100 dollars plus interest for 50 years.

 

are you serious? how much would that be?

 

Rust in peace, or pieces.

 

Here is some info from the P15-D24 forum....I made the initial post about the winner. The car, last I read, has been displayed in the showroom of East Tulsa Dodge dealership......where people have been coming to view it.

Evidently an offer has been made by a Mr Patch who owns a whole collection of 1957 cars displayed in the basement of the Dick Clark Theater in Branson, MO. My personal opinion is that that would probably be the best place for it.

#1 Yesterday, 02:50 AM
BobT-47P15

Buried 57 Plymouth to be given to sister....

.....of the man with the closest guess on Tulsa's 2007 population.

Found this article.

FREDERICK, Md. -- A vintage car buried for 50 years in Tulsa, Okla., is coming to Frederick.

A new 1957 Plymouth Belvedere was buried in honor of Tulsa's 50th birthday celebration in 1957. It was unearthed during a centennial celebration last month and was awarded to the closest living relative of Ray Humbertson -- the man who, 50 years ago, most closely guessed the city's current population.

Humbertson died in 1979 so the car is being given to his sister, Catherine Johnson, of Bowling Green. Her Frederick nephew, Bob Carney, will try to remove 50 years of rust and make the car presentable. He won't do a full restoration, which he says would remove some of the car's historic value.


Tulsa will give the car to Johnson on Sept. 14.

Containers of gasoline in the trunk will be analyzed:

NORMAN, Okla. -- The Plymouth Belvedere buried in a time capsule was rusty and undriveable but gasoline cached with the car could have scientific value.

The people who put together the time capsule 50 years ago in Tulsa included two containers of gasoline in case fuel was no longer available for the Plymouth when the vault was unsealed this year.

For Paul Philp, a professor of petroleum and environmental geochemistry at the University of Oklahoma, the gas is valuable on its own.

"We're going to begin fingerprinting the gasoline and compare it to modern day gasolines," he said
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Glad to hear someone is going to try and revive this old girl. I would have thought this car would need a total body-off to deal with all the corrosion and silt that found its way into the vault. Just how bad was the body on this car, whats involved in bringing it bcak to life, and to be "presentable"...........Fred
Rockwood

#3 Yesterday, 08:58 AM
Don Coatney
Having seen the car live in person I believe it can be restored if one is so inclined and has the time and money. The stainless steel trim and the glass are good to go with some cleaning and polishing. Everything (and I do mean everything) else needs replacement.

It sounds like the value of the gas in the cans in the trunk may be more valuable than the rest of the car.
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#4 Yesterday, 09:23 AM
Norm's Coupe
Sounds like someone really believes in reincarnation. I would just let the city keep the thing.
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#5 Yesterday, 10:11 AM
knuckleharley
50 year old gasoline


Chances are they are going to find out it is better gas than gas sold 3 months ago. Years ago I was starting and driving cars that had been sitting more than 10 years,and now gas that has been sitting 6 months won't even start my lawnmower.
knuckleharley

#6 Yesterday, 12:59 PM
BobT-47P15
I suppose a good question is: what should a person do with that car??

Assuming you had the wherewithal to restore it......should it be restored with lots of pictures of it as it came from the vault? Or should it be left "as is" and shown that way? Which would have more value in the future??

Or, any other thoughts.......
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#7 Yesterday, 01:28 PM
Norm's Coupe
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Originally Posted by BobT-47P15
I suppose a good question is: what should a person do with that car??

I don't know about the value as that car sits right now. I wouldn't give a penny for it. Plus, even if it did have great value, would you want that thing sitting in your yard or garage in that condition all the time?

Like Don C said. The car needs everything. You'd have to replace the frame and all. Then would it really be the same car. Not really. So it wouldn't have any more value then, than any other restored 57. Only difference being you'd have to spend a ton more to restore it. Or, a better word......Rebuild it. Some cars are beyond help and I think this is one of them.
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#8 Yesterday, 09:58 PM
dodgepu1946
This was in discussion at our plymouth club meeting today. The guys who saw it in person were split about whether it could be restored. Some said the frame and underbody stuff was good. I'm sure it needs lots of work if it can be done. The other interesting thing mentioned was that the owner of the 57 museum in Branson was offering 200K for it.

#9 Today, 07:37 AM
Norm's Coupe
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Originally Posted by dodgepu1946
This was in discussion at our plymouth club meeting today. The guys who saw it in person were split about whether it could be restored. Some said the frame and underbody stuff was good. I'm sure it needs lots of work if it can be done. The other interesting thing mentioned was that the owner of the 57 museum in Branson was offering 200K for it.

The winner should grab that offer FAST before they have that person committed. I for one wouldn't pay to see a car like that in a museum. If I wanted to see old cars in that condition, I could just go to the junk yard for free.

As for restorability. Think I read that the trunk deck even cracked or broke when they opened it. Or was that the hood? That should give anyone with dreams of restoring that car an idea of the condition of the sheet metal. If it's that bad, you couldn't even weld it.
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#10 Today, 08:24 AM
knuckleharley

Buried Plymouth

It should be preserved,not restored. This means all the mud should be cleared from it and everything underneath and covered should be cleaned and coated with a coat of a preservative like Cosmoline to keep the air from getting to the rust and making it worse. Maybe even do this on the outside if you can find a clear preservative to put on it after cleaning the mud off.

I can see why the owner of a 57 museum would want it. It would make money for him. I can't see why anybody else would want it,though.
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#11 Today, 08:43 AM
claybill

this car is ONLY valuable for museum purposes. why trouble our brain with restoration or no restoration questions, as it means nothing.!
for a museum it is solid $$$$$$ take the offer fast! as a restored car it might bring 20grand when done. as only the memory will exist. and some paper work.
think about it.
bill


#12 Today, 10:43 AM
blueskies
Here's a couple of pics I took of the car...

I think the crust on the out side of the car is a lot of rusty colored mud and grime. But, there is a tremendous amount of rust under the coating of crud. I bet the sheetmetal is not much more than lace, and the grime is holding it together. The car would not even roll, they moved it around with a fork lift... It sat in the bottom of a dirty swimming pool for 50 years, the equivalent of the bottom of a swamp. There is nothing on the car that isn't damaged beyond repair, other than the glass and stainless steel trim.

It's only value IMHO is historic, and I don't think it should even be touched. I think it should go to a museum for all to see. Once they strip it of it's patina, it will be stripped of it's significance and will become just another rusty old pile.

ed note.....pics did not carry over

Looks comfy, wanna go for a ride?
Pete
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#13 Today, 10:48 AM
rearview
That thing's gotta smell nasty



#14 Today, 10:52 AM
Norm's Coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by rearview
That thing's gotta smell nasty

Bob, I think that may be an understatement.
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#15 Today, 12:05 PM
Don Coatney
Quote:
Originally Posted by rearview
That thing's gotta smell nasty

Something wrong with a fifty year old new car smell


#16 Today, 02:48 PM
BobT-47P15
I doubt that much on that car would clean very well, except the chrome and stainless. As bad as everything appears to be, most all parts would need replacing.....and once that was done, not much originality. Might as well just find another car that looks like it. I think the Branson 1957 model car museum would be the place. All cars there are very nice----a variety of makes from that year.







#17 Today, 03:04 PM
Don Coatney
ote:
Originally Posted by BobT-47P15
I As bad as everything appears to be, most all parts would need replacing.....and once that was done, not much originality.

Reminds me of Tim Adams ball pien hammer. It is all original however the handle has been replaced three times and the head twice due to normal wear and tear.
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