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Tintable Primer-Sealer?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BobbyV, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. BobbyV
    Joined: Jan 26, 2007
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    BobbyV
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    from Tulsa

    I have to strip some panels on my truck to bare metal and use an epoxy primer-sealer because it is outside driven regularly and a work-in-progress as funds allow. It is 1992 GM Truck "bahama blue" (a bright blue metalic) and I would like to use a bare metal primer-sealer that I can tint blue so the contrast isn't so great. Any advice.
     
  2. jusjunk
    Joined: Dec 3, 2004
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    jusjunk
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    How about kirker epoxy primer and then their tintable hi fill primer. I just shot my frame with the epoxy and hi fill and also thier 2 part urathane then clear over it on the frame but no clear on the other parts like rearend and front axle.. The color choices are limited but it lays out smooth and shiney.. Heres where i got my stuff. Oh its cheap too.
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  3. SlowandLow63
    Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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    from Central NJ

    There's really no such thing as a bare metal/primer/sealer. However, that would save us all alot of trouble...

    Anywhoo, your best bet is House of Kolor Direct to Metal Epoxy primer. Made to go over bare metal and works great. Next HOK Ko-Seal. This si the stuff dreams are made from. Lays out like a basecoat, seals up he epoxy primer, and can be tinted with kandies however you desire. Not really made to be, left in the weather. More like a bond coat from primer to your base.Exactly what you need.
     
  4. MichaelDorman
    Joined: Apr 27, 2001
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    I've had good luck with DP50 over clean bare metal in the past. But it is a ***** to sand. If you end up going that route I would lay down the DP50, scuff it up and then shoot some K38 over it to be able to sand it a little better.

    As far as being able to tint it. They say you can't tint it, but you can, it just comes out very light no matter how much toner you dump in. It always stays sort of a pastle color. Also you catalyst needs will change with the tint.

    Good luck.
     
  5. cleatus
    Joined: Mar 1, 2002
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    cleatus
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    from Sacramento

    If you can find a dealer nearby who stocks Sikkens brand, it is the best for being able to tint it to just about any color you wish (i just brought in a swatch). Most brands can only be tinted/changed so much before it affects their ability to stick to the surface.

    Be sure to get the sealer additive for it.

    It sands great too
     
  6. try looking at PPG's CRE. Its not automotive based but it is epoxy, high build, and tintable. I've used it a couple times with good results. My .02 and you can keep the change
     
  7. luckystiff
    Joined: Mar 20, 2002
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    yep, PPG CRE-CT. do a search here for it you'll find several folks from here have used and liked it for what you want. and it's cheap. downside is almost no one stocks it and you have to order it in...ken....
     
  8. BobbyV
    Joined: Jan 26, 2007
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    BobbyV
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    from Tulsa

    Thanks everyone. The PPG CRE-CT looks great on paper (PDF from the PPG website :) ). I've got a pretty good PPG rep in town, so I'll check with him tomorrow. I also noticed when that the PPG website that they also now have 'DP60LF (Blue)'. I had put DP-90 (black) on my 60 Chev PU in '95 and ran it for 3yrs outside with no rust occuring. Great stuff, but now it is waterborn and I am unsure about its performance. Guess I'll see how close that blue is on the DP60LF is while I'm checking on the CRE-CT.
     
  9. My local jobber is an Auto Value dealer and keeps this stuff on hand. If I remember right its only like $85 for a gallon system.
     
  10. Shifty Shifterton
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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    Consider having your paint shop custom-can an aerosol of the topcoat and just fog each panel after primer without any real prep.

    Puts color on the truck so it's a 50-footer, and it's compatible with the eventual finish. You could do the same thing with an $8 can of duplicolor, but risk compatibility issues if it's not 100% removed before final topcoat.

    good luck
     
  11. TommyLeDouche
    Joined: Apr 16, 2007
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    I know PPG has a line called Global and they sell primer that can be tinted to just about any color you could think of. A PPG jobber selling Global should have paint swatches to pick out the color of prmer and it could be mixed up. Of course it is expensive.
     

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