on another post it is stated that the b-400 is the rarest of the the rare. for those of us that don't know everything about dueces,is it? or is the roadster p.u. the rarest. or what is the rarest.annnnd who has the best duece collection,rodded.and original.or both? just info i would like to know?
i think the sedan delivery is the rarest DEUCE at 58 total....i may be wrong? i guy in minnesota has a very large `32 collection..here is one of his:
Someone can jump in with figures on the RPU but what I have shows that the Sedan Delivery had the lowest production number at 400. 342 with four cylinders & 58 with V/8's. Maybe that's where 36-3window is getting that number. JH
Obviously, the numbers are all over the place. What I have is domestic production alone. FWIW - I show 42 V/8 B-400's & 926 B-400 4 cylinders. JH
As far as the part about '32 Ford collections, there used to be a guy here in Tulsa who supposedly had at least one of each body style of '32. This was probably thirty years ago, his name was Secrest. Don't have any idea where the cars are now, but haven't heard of the guy in a long time, I assume he passed on and the collection was sold. Anyone know for sure? Hemmings Classic Car magazine had a story a year or so back with a guy with a big '32 collection also, some stock, some not.
Cabriolet 6,091 Convertible sedan 926 Five-window Standard coupe 51,794 Fordor sedan 37,363 Panel delivery 6,122 Phaeton 2,490 Roadster 12,597 Sedan delivery 400 Station wagon 1,383 Sport coupe 2,911 Three-window Deluxe coupe 22,148 Tudor sedan 124,101 Victoria 8,580 Source ... The book "The Early Ford V-8 As Henry Built it " I have seen other numbers published ... B-400's are rare ... they were expensive in the worse year of the Depression, offered little to no advantage over the common Tudor and ... in truth ... a lot of folks... then as now ... consider them to the the least desirable 32 Ford made ( looks wise ).
Here,s a 32 Limousine nearing completion in the U.K. How rare do you want? I believe there was around 80 built and only 2 or 3 survive. Factory built?
Buddy of mine up here in the redwoods, has an original-wood Station wagon, 4 cylinder, been repainted once, I think, and that's about it...Has the radio (with the antenna running under the passenger side running board) dual side-mount spares (I think, I never paid that much attention, I know for sure it has the spare on the passenger side mounted in the fender), just a real nice car, and he drives the shit out of it, it was at our local car show in the Crescent City Harbor yesterday...
<TABLE borderColor=silver align=right border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Cabriolet</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>6,091</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Convertible sedan</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>926</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Five-window Standard coupe</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>51,794</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Fordor sedan</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>37,363</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Panel delivery</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>6,122</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Phaeton</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>2,490</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Roadster</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>12,597</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Sedan delivery</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>400</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Station wagon</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>1,383</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Sport coupe</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>2,911</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Three-window Deluxe coupe</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>22,148</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Tudor sedan</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>124,101</TD><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Victoria</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>8,580</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I think it's correct to say that the B-400 was the lowest production passenger car, since the sedan delivery and roadster pickup were considered to be "commercials". It's odd that the lists posted by Deuce Roadster and 1LowLeSabre includes panels and sedan deliveries (commercials both), but neither closed nor roadster pickups.
Hey, Do proto-types count?...... There's a guy here in SoCal, Paul Gagome (sp) who has not a '32 & not a '33, but a Briggs Body Company mutant A two door cabrio. bodied. I'm still lookin' for which disc I have it on.
again not knowing dueces very well,convertable sedan =b-400,and station wagon= woodie correct?and the numbers on trucks would be interesting. and thanks so far for the info and were european models different, well diff. body styles?
you are correct on B400 being the convertable sedan and the station wagon being a woodie........BUT (and i'm not trying to pick on you) it's deuce and not duece see , you learned a lot about them
Used to be a 32 Hearse in Allen Texas. Don't know if the guy still lives there. He claimed that there were only 3 built.
Has anyone got any picts of Don Smiths new 32 prison bus. He was supposed to take it to vernon this past week end.
All the limosines, hearses, one-offs with towncar configurations, and so on are the products of coach-builders either in the US, Canada, or Europe. I believe, sadly, that the magnificent collection of Mr. William Seacrest in OK was broken up and sold after his death. He had a complete collection of 32 Fords, including every factory passenger car and commercial car and Truck, and a fabulous restored driveable chassis, plus I seem to remember some kind of a cutaway Ford display Tudor sedan as well. I saw the collection on dispaly only once at the Early Ford V8 Club National meet in Tulsa OK in about 1974. It was awe-inspiring to say the least. I only wish they had had room to put each vehicle in a separate roped "corral" rather than in groups.
Secrest...could he have been "Theodore Thertito"?? In the '70's, deuce fanatic/rodder Neal East published a really nice antique car magazine, which naturally ran heavy on '32 Fords. He ran an article on a fabulous '32 collection like that...not only restored cars, but stacks of restored frames, engines, etc. enough to reopen an assembly line...owner was listed as "Theodore Thertito", say it out loud... Pickup numbers...and truck numbers (Commercials, meaning passenger car based trucks, and Trucks, meaning BB chassis) were oddly done and not really accountable. I don't remember exactly where this id detailed--possibly De Angelis book. From approximate memory, numbers were kept as chassis sold of each type, bodies (cabs) of each type, and rear bodies/beds sold. Theu were sold as bare chassis, as complete reigs with chassis, bed, and cab, and as chassis with cab only, AND to screw up number watching further, the cab bodies (not deliveries and such that were full length) fit BB and regualar chassis interchangeably. SO, there would be a number for roadster cabs sold, but no way of telling how many were pickups and how many were BB's. Presumably most were light commercials, but I don't think Ford itself would have known for sure.
When I was young and just starting to influenced by the duce I was lucky enough to have a tour of the Seacrest collection. Felt like a kid in an candy store. It was awsum.
So the story goes, The guy not knowing who Doc Seacrest was, ask him what kind of a '32 Ford did he have? Doc replies"I have a set".