Hello Team I need some help on my Model A project car. I am trying to install Halibrand spindle mount front wheels on my Ford spindles? The Halibrand wheels are magnesium and machined for the Anglia P&S style spindle. a) Can the Ford spindle be "easily" machined to allow this? b) Is there an aftermarket spindle for the Ford axle which allows wheels with the Anglia P&S spindle size to bolt right on? Any information or ideas that you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Warmest regards, Mike Gibbons Sugar Land, Texas
The lathe centers should still be on the Ford Spindles. I had to turn down a set of willys spindles and the lathe centers where still on them. Carl Hagan
If you do a search for Anglia spindles you'll find quite a few discussions on this. I've seen Ford spindles that were turned down and Ch***isworks sells Anglia stubs. Larry T
The casting for the wheels was the same for either spindle. You can bore the wheels for Anglia spindles to accept the Ford bearings / spindles or at least I was told so by Halibrand, years ago.
anglia spindles are at least an inch shorter than a ford. i don't see how the same casting would work, unless the spindle nut for the anglia application is buried an inch deep inside the wheel when tightened. i know american spindle mounts were unique for fords and anglias. i have a set of ford spindles turned down for an anglia hub. so yeah, it can be done.
I have a set of '37 - '41 spindles that are machined to the anglia spec and have had 'Econoline' spindles machined to the Strange Engineering spec off the original centers.
Back to the Top. Do you guys know the weight limit on an Anglia spindle? I have a 3000# car with heavy 392 going up front.
if you haven't seen one.....a anglia spindle is real tiny....compared to a old ford....as for machining the wheel....you might be able to go from old ford to anglia ....maybe....as mentioned in this post the center is wider for the ford....you could always just sell them to me instead.... what style are they...? thanks brandon
Wow that's ALOT for them there itty bitty spindles to carry. And while I am sure there will be examples of drag cars doing exactly that - I'd think long and hard before putting a setup like that on a STREET car - subject to the pot holes you will inevitably encounter. I wouldn't do it. But that's just me.
though not a true early ford spindle , it is a early 50's or so ford truck spindle....and the other is a anglia spindle ....just so you get the idea..... brandon
I am quite familiar with the spindle sizes you are working with. I've got the early Ford spindles on several cars. I also have the anglia spindles on my digger. I guess my concern is that 3000 lbs. is a fair amount - Compounded by the fact that that early hemi is no light weight!!!! I have a 392 in my coupe with spindle mount wheels and personally I wouldn't consider anything less than a FORGED EARLY FORD SPINDLE as mine is a street car. Granted if it was a strip only thing then that's another kettle of fish. My digger weighs about 1600 lbs - and the motor is far back enoguh where I can lift the front end by myself (and I have a weak back!!) The thing with spindle size is two fold - not only is the Early Ford spindle stronger beacause of teh physical increase in diameter but it is compounded in strength because the bearings are also further apart. Now keep in mind - I am NOT claiming any expertise in this matter. I am only trying to share the logic that I would use if I were asking this question to myself. Take a look at the spindle sizes over the years for similar weighted vehicles. You'll notice that over time the spindles got bigger and bigger. Heck check out some Mustang II spindles (similar weighted car)- they are some pretty thick ******s - compare those to your anglia ones - it'd make me more than just nervous. Plus you're gonna have even more weight on your spindles with that boat anchor (kidding - I'm a hemi guy too). If I were you and STILL considering using these I would want to talk with a BUNCH of guys who have been suing them suicessfully on the STREET in a similar load condition for a long number of years. and if I could get that warm and fuzzy feeling - then I'd have them magnafluxed. Then I'd... naw - I'd still put early Ford 's on there - forged ones to boot!!!! YMMV
figure i would throw in one more shot at this myself.....even on my last anglia .....i still ended up using a old ford spindle..... save the anglia stuff for the drags..... brandon
I would machine the wheel before I would down size any spindle.........for the street......... just as Brandon said.............leave the small anglia stuff for the dragstrip....Littleman
It could only be done if it has the extra material to allow it, I have seen over the years some rim designs that you could do it too.....his may not.......Their are plenty of the early Ford ones out their.......I would seek for a pair and once I got them, unload the Anglia ones if need be......Your going to want to run a spindle mount that has the provisions to put front brakes on it also anyways atleast the ones with the cast in bosses that can be machined...since he is building a streeter..Littleman
Correction......neither Gibbonsm and 51Henry J stated that they were building a street car or a drag only car............So I have no idea of the purpose of either, and they may not need front brakes if its a dedicated drag car and may get away with using the Anglia spindle size...............I tried to edit my post, but it would not allow me too.......Littleman
The Anglia spindles are notorious for their tendency to split along the 'seam' on the upper kingpin boss. There was a huge 'race special' movement over here in the 50's and 60's where guys would remove the original bodywork of their Anglias and Pops and replace it with a lightweight aluminium or gl*** roadster shell to go short course racing. Even on a car with the original 998cc or 1172cc engine and lightweight body, the spindles would split on a regular basis. I spoke to the guys at Small Ford Spares over here last week and they said that this is the reason why they have almost everything else for the Anglia sitting on the shelf in the original packaging but they haven't been able to find original spindles for years. They've had the spindles made out of EN24 steel for the historic racing guys but they don't come cheap at around $700 a pair! That said, I know of at least two Anglia g***ers over here running original front ends with heavy iron V8 motors but the jury is out on whether disaster may be just around the corner...
I've got a set of halibrand anglia spindle wheels. I'd like to do***ent what it takes to machine them to early ford spindles. The wheels are part number 2037. Did they designate the spindle they were made for? The guy I got them from thought they were ford spindles but they are not.
If the wheels came with bearings installed and the inner bearing ID is 25mm and the outer bearing ID is 5/8 then those are ANGLIA/P&S type and are too narrow to machine to FORD.You would either have to machine some adapters to get the bearing width back up or machine the Ford spindle down
What I have are Anglia Spindle Mount Wheels, I am certain of that since I have some actual Anglia Spindles and they fit perfect. I also understand they are too narrow to fit Early Ford Spindles the way they are. I was hoping for confirmation the Anglia Mount wheels were cast the same as the Early Ford Mount Wheels and the hub could Simply be machined to take the bigger early Ford bearings. Someone stated below that Halibrand had told them the Anglia Wheels could be Converted to Early Ford Spindles. I will do some measuring to see if it is possible.
The only way to make what you have work is -You can machine the back of the rim to accecpt the Ford inner bearing and bolt on a piece of material to the outside of the hub and machine for the outer bearing. I have done 6 sets of Ford wheels to Anglia spindels, those are easy because you have to remove material, but the other way its hard to machine somthing that isnt there. Best thing is to machine your spindel down.
Thank you for posting and responding. Can you confirm what kind of wheels were you working with? The outer smaller bearing races are recessed pretty far fro the front of the hub in my wheels. When ***embled, the 3/4" castle nut is almost flush or recessed within the outer lip on the wheel hub when snugged up on the anglia spindles. Here is another thread on similar - just to get everything in one place. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52253&highlight=anglia+spindle+dimensions
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