Burgy, im sorry you took it as talking back, his previous post was rather rude before it was edited so the whole picture is a bit off. The joints of the frame where i added onto have not been completely plated YET, but the truck is not even ready for the cab to be mounted yet either. The kickups in the rear will have a 1\8" plate inside and out. I completely agree about my welding skills, thats why I've had friends (that are good at welding, and some professional as well) stop by to check them out. They have all agreed that although not pretty they should work out fine. xderelict, in regards to post #98 first photo all i can say is its a mockup, notice the self tapping screws holding are holding it together at this time, that section of frame is slide into the factory frame 9". then rosette\ plug welded, as well as the end of the factory frame being welded to the addition. The kickups are welded in, and I have not yet put all 4 plates on the joints yet, but it will be plated before it ever hits the road. In regards to post #120 second photo down, the cab is setting on the frame to check for clearance of the headers, bellhousing, and to mock up the clutch slave and pedal\master cylinder assembly. The cab goes on an off once a week or more. Hopefully this clarifies things a bit and puts it into a better perspective. I can see in #120 what your talking about, but hopefully now you can see why its not a problem. Im really not being an ass about things, i actually decide to take your second post constructive (the one before the edit) and edited the asshole statements I made into constructive ones. I am quite insulted thought that you said it was the biggest peice of shit on the hamb though... but everyone is entitled to there own opinion i guess. Personally I think Im doing pretty darned good for having started in April with only a cab and doors. Before you consider this the biggest piece of shit on here let me finish (start driving) it, hell you might think different of it when its done, might be worse... ha ha
Upchuck, if you look back through some of the pics, there is a gusset in there as well as a plate wrapping around the bottom of the frame, dont know at the moment if there is one that shows it real well or not. You are correct there is no rubber in the mounts, its a fully balanced engine, ran it that way in the previous vehicle with no problem. I wasnt 100% on them and actually did grind a couple down to nothing an re-do them early on, while a friend was there that is a rather good welder, I trust this guy, have ridden in some very VERY modified vehicles with him over the years, and he says it should hold fine, other people have said the same who have actually looked at it in person and can take it in from all the angles. But hell, anything can happen right?
The 40 CHEVY TRUCK BUILD song. Fa lala la la lala fa la lala la. Your antihuman81. Could be Norm Graboski' bastard son. George Barris could learn a thing or two, If he would spend some time with you. I have a friend who owns a welder, He said your beads will hold together. Like farting in the wind and seeing colors, your antihuman81. La lala la la lala.
Cool song, dont see what it has to do with me trying to see things from your point of view and possibly fix something that might be wrong. You made a rather rude comment about my build, I took it in stride and asked what i needed to fix, tried to figure out what needed to be changed. I responded to your concerns, explained what was going on in the pictures that you apparently didn't understand. Now even though ive been trying to correct things your just being an ass now.... Hopefully you understand that I was seriously trying to figure out what all was wrong with it. I like other opinions to keep me straight, but when I asked you to elaborate you just got your ass all up in the air about it and posted about how it was the biggest piece of shit you've ever seen then edited the post later, im assuming so you didnt look like a total ass. You talked how it was poorly executed, but its not even done. I guess maybe I need some 8foot tall pipes running up the side of the truck to make it right.....
Hey, welcome to the HAMB. Seems like every time someone posts a build that's not Boyd Codpiece perfect there's always one guy trying to mount your ass over it. At least you're taking it in stride. I had a guy weld a hitch on my truck and the welds look like terrible shit, but I dragged around 7500 lbs behind me a couple times without any problems. Maybe it's because the guy's been welding for longer than I've been alive, and he does contract work for lots of big outfits building steam pipes and the like, but I trust the work. If your welds look good to someone who knows, I wouldn't stress on it. If it's your first real chassis up build, you gotta learn somehow.
rustynewyorker, thanks for the welcome odd that this part of your post only shows when i went to reply maybe it will fix itself......
yeah but... you say this thing is going to push 425 hp... and you "think" your welds are good because someone told you they might be? I've got nothing against using what you have, but that poor little toyota frame... and that center crossmember... there's not a lot there. I've bent square tube like that in my shop with not a lot of pressure. If I (and several others) are wrong, that's great.. but if you're wrong someone might just get hurt or worse.
Nate, i do appreciate the concern. that tubing is 1/4 wall and the toyota frame is rather thick as well. I've seen less hold more.
thanks for clarifying a few points I was concerned about, and I did not see xderelicts unedited post, however I still do agree with his previous concerns, and its easy to see from his eyes why he is concerned, as usually builds like this arent as documented as yours, and it is far from the conventional manner we're used to seeing/reading about, and the only thing we have to go by, is your word, that it is true(diamond) and level. I do strongly agree with Nate on the above post, ladder style frames went out of style for a reason, it probably wouldnt kill you to fab in a k-member or x-member, and they could even come in handy for mounting points for your pedals, master cylinder and whatnot. It probably wouldn't hurt to just weld two pieces of tube together and bend them till/if they break and maybe give us a couple pictures of said demonstration, that will atleast rule out the welding scenario a tiny bit
Well, if you're 100% sure this thing isn't going to fail when you put the hammer down go for it.. but reading your posts up to this point it doesn't sound like you really are. You say you're taking the criticism you're getting and making the necessary changes but it seems like you're just defending what you've already done. I keep thinking about how it would be if you were to drop that engine in a little toyota pickup or whatever it was... and you've removed the center crossmember.. even if the welds hold that sucker is going to twist like crazy. I'm no expert, but I have some common sense.
Nate,I'm sure that antihuman81 knows what he's doing,it's obvious because he keeps telling us so.His level of expertise is unsurpassed and his technique should not be questioned.No concerns that you, I,or anyone may have are relevant,all contingencies have been addressed,and all concerns laid to rest. We will all come away from this build feeling like the hamb is a better place for it.We should thank antihuman81 for taking the time to share his level of fabrication skills ,that we too may learn.I am humbled by my lack of comprehension of the genious, skills,and dedication that are being displayed,and can only hope to learn from a true master.I sincerly believe this build belongs in the TECH section,......NOT!
Burgy, ive got about a 5 foot peice of that box tube left over, has a couple brackets of some sort on it, I might just go for that idea, cut it in half, then weld it back together and thrash on it for the camera. I dont have a vise so i might have to result to more "primitive" methods of destruction, wedge it in the v of the tree and pull, bash it on some big rocks nearby. Think that would suffice? Nate, I dont want it to come across like im defending it so much as im explaining what ive done. In regards to the crossmember you were asking about, every one i removed i replaced with another, I know it will flex some, and I have been thinking about an X member under the cab, but untill i get the driveshaft I cant do anything with it. I'm going to try to get some more steel soon, ive just about used up all i got with the truck. xderelict, get a life..... I've never even came close to saying that I know what I'm doing. I'm learning everyday. Apparently you know all there is to know about everything and are a master fabricator, engineer, designer, blah, blah, blah. But when it comes down to it, if you are and you build the best things in the world and they are all perfect and proper and it has somehow made you into the pompus ass you are today, then maybe i shouldn't try to get any better so i dont become YOU!
a song ! very creative but not really what we look at hamb for ..... we put v 8 in toyota pickups all the time,they are pretty tough. i used to work in the mining industry way out in the desert ,they are easy to fix and hard to break ! co incidently thats where i learned to fix stuff without conventional tools, shelter,help,water,catalogues etc i am very sure anti human is a much better welder today than he was when he started some day soon he will have to grind out and go over some of his early work........he may have to ditch whole chunks of metal .........re visit and re think. its called 'growth 'and it proves we are alive so what ! keep going ! and keep posting ,even if its just to give these grumpy old men the shits ! cant wait till you teach yourself to paint ,i used a vacuum cleaner going backwards and ONE litre of paint for my first car ! any one want to talk about bump steer ? SOAP BOX IS NOW FREE.... cheers !
WOW!!! I am blown away. Usually I dont care for homosexual singers/songwriters but in this case I must make an exception.Your references to classic Hot Rod gods in lines 2 and 3 are simply transcendent.... You totaly drove your point home. This could be the best lyrical work I have ever read.The way that you threw conventional rythm and rhyme patterns out the window in search of your own unique style,to me, represents how you have shunned the heterosexual lifestyle in search or your own unique "love". In line 6 where you reference beads holding together I cant help but think of that time when you were dating that younger guy and your "butt-beads" DIDNT hold together....resulting in that ER visit we all have been laughing about. Then as a stunning finally we are graced with the eloquence of line 7, refering to farting and seeing color. Well I can assume that the only color you ever see when you fart is white......
wow...... on a seperate note, i picked up a rearview "mirror" from a 43 chevy coupe for the truck, all chrome no glass, just reflects in the chrome, first i've seen like it. I got a 62 virginia plate for the t-bird project later down the road, and I got started on the brake system on the truck, once the mount for the master cylinder is on the truck im pulling the cab again, hopefully for the last time, going to make body mounts, try to get a working transmission in it, get a d-shaft fabbed up by a somewhat local shop, hang the frontend (finally found someone to ream the kingpin bushings) and hopefully be able to button up the few thousand loose ends and maybe make it move, im thinking of testing in nebraska.......
Started on the radiator and gas tank (keg) mounts yesterday, almost got it all done today,started on the shroud for the 2 14" electric fans as well, Im going to put foam weatherstripping on the radiator where the shroud touches it to seal it off the mount is two peice, unbolts from the front part and not only holds the tank up but the radiator down as well The beginings of the shroud.. with the tank on it and the fans sitting where the rest of the shroud will be... doesnt look like the fans will fit in this pic, but once the bottom of the shroud is on there they will, it angles back some,
as an afterthought to the previous post, in case anyone is wondering why i used such THICK metal for the shroud, it was free and all I had to work with, but I shouldnt have to worry about the strength of it....
wow i have the same fans, a beer keg and a 40 chev pickup deal in the works ( its a long slow process but it will be cheap !) been thinking about your seats .if you wanted them low ,and minimal have a look at an extra cab pickup truck rears ( im thinking of my previous 02 toyota 4x4 ) they sit over a little tool storage but could go right on the floor (or box over the old fuel tank ) with a back pad on the rear wall i go to a fabric chain we have here and get "fun fur " and go nuts with a staple gun got to sit in some bomber seats on a ww2 dodge weapons carrier and i am hooked ! cheers !
suavemechanic, Ive been thinking about building seats out of plywood and setting them low, basically sitting just about the level of where the gas tank was originally, then get some fairly stiff foam from the local upholstry shop and some type of fabric, might even get original with some mexican blankets for seat covers..ha ha
not much more progress, got some pics to put on sometime, got a spring for the front, need to get my caliper brackets and put my spindles on the axle and hang the front axle, maybe get the thing on 4 wheels before Christmas......
Wow. I'm glad to see somebody else building one of these. I bought a 41 at a swap meet early this fall. I only bought it because I couldn't stand to see it go for scrap. I only got the cab, no doors or anything. I've wanted to build a frame (never done that before) and I got a mid 30's ford front axle with GM disk's on it from my bosses dad. I'm thanking everybody who posted pics to this thread for the inspiration and maybe some ideas, I'm not planning on stealing anybody ideas as this will be my first pre-war rod but I really need the help to get my head working. If anybody knows of any good web pages that feature these trucks, I would love the links so I can work on getting the lines correct. Thanks again I'm new to this site but am LOVING the level of tech that I'm finding here, and not the typical "I think BLA BLA BLA" with no real substance to back it up. Keith
383 240z: thank you for your comments, and a word of advice I hope you dont mind people hating you cause unless its more of the traditional idea of a hotrod then a bunch of people are going to say its dumb, and abortion, a waste, and on and on and on. Just plan it out get YOUR idea of what you like and build it and you will enjoy it. Look for a thread by JAGERBOMB he's working on a 36, ROBLEE did a 50's there a alot of them out of there, Good luck.
I've got pretty thick skin when it comes to my cars. I drove a SUPER modified Mazda RX-7 on the hot rod power tour one year. I build what makes me happy, I have to build what my customers want all day long, when I come home I build for ME!!! As for building in the traditional style, who wrote the rule book? I'm building this truck from parts I have around my shop, my buddies shop and what ever I can drag home from the swap meet and junkyard, after I pay the bills. I plan on using this as my daily driver so I'm much more worried about brakes and steering, but I still want it to look good. I know what I want the truck to look like, I've got it laid out pretty well, nothing fancy split wishbone front, G-body rear on coils. (I think the triangulated 4 link will be a good riding setup) I'm planning on running a 52 ford bed I found in a field near my farm. The power will be a small block chevy with a 4 speed (if I get one for the right price) or a 2004r I have out in the shop I got from and old Grand National. I'm setting the ground clearance at 5". I think about a 29" tire on the rear and what looks right for the front (about a 23") the fuel tank is gonna be under the bed and wooden plank side boards to give me more useable bed depth. I'm not planning on front sheet metal for 2 reasons, one I dont have it and to buy it is $$$, two I really dont like the looks of it, so I'm planning on making my own hood and sides after I find a suitable grill setup. Over all I really just want a good looking truck that can haul a few sheets of plywood or be used to grab parts from the swap meet, be dead solid reliable. Just like my shop truck, the 33 ford that we work the ass of off. just a plain carbed 327/TH350 with a ford 8" she looks beat, smokes a little but I know EVERY time I put the key in and stomp on the started she's gonna take me where I need to go. Here is a pic of her.
383 240z does the screen name reference something else thats not too hamb friendly? pm me with some details on it
Yea I used it in here as well as the board for my off road club, and my race car club, just so ppl can reconize me as the same person on all the sites. PM sent. Keith
35mastr well i would give some really creative answer to that, but im not completly decided just yet... ive been thinking of having a radiator shop (or someone who can braze brass) to cut the fill tube off and put a small elbow on it and put the filler and cap on top of the elbow, seems simple enough, other than that I thought of putting a T in one of the hard lines running from front to back and a pressure relief cap to vent the air(manually)? would be slow filling it but it "should" work as long as the fill point was higher than the cap. If anyone else has a constructive idea for this, PLEASE feel free to reply, i've been tumbling the idea around for a while now, just havent acted yet.......
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