OT: The 50 Worst Cars of All Time

I'm all over the one with the dead horse head on the front.

It's totally cool.

 

63ChevyII !,no just kidding!!!
Can't take those lists seriously. Depends on wether it is based on popularity,sales,repairs,or opinion. Pretty hard to beat the Model T in it's time. Stupid list...

 

I don't know about the list, but the biggest piece of shit I've ever owned was a 1978 Dodge Ramcharger (SUV) that I bought new. There wasn't anything about that pirce of shit that wasn't wrong.

I ended up giving it back ... it ruined my credit...I didn't care.

 

i dunno guys, i sort of agree about 90% of his list. i am inclined to believe that its a bit short though. theres been so many bad cars from 73-93 (pretty much all of them) that i would have just left the whole two decades out saying it was something like the dark ages or something. and for those who dont believe a model t wasnt a piece of shit in its time just ask your elders. sure it was everywhere and cheap but that was its main attraction.

 

...... and it was affordable, had interchangeability, had adaptability, it could traverse the "roads" of the day, was fixable by farmers and blacksmiths, was tough, could fiord a stream, could climb steps, could easily be made into a truck, a tractor a sawmill or a power generator, utilized exotic metallurgy and materials for it's time, was like a spaceship compared to the horse and buggy it replaced. Need I go on?

 

so were most all the other cars built in that time. theres not anything you mentioned about the "t" that wouldnt have applied to any other car owned by a clever farmhand/missionary/homeshop engineer with a need and a purpose. even though i have no proof id bet there was at least one maxwell or stutz log wagon built.

 

The Model T didn't deserve to be on the list.

But admittedly I do agree with much of the list. He also seems mostly impartial, as he hates on cars of pretty much all geographic origins.

The K car and the minivan DEFINITELY shouldn't be on that list, as they are the vehicles that likely saved the Chrysler Corp. (thanks Lee). Perceptive people at Chrysler recognized a demand in the market for a vehicle that did not yet exist. Extensive research corroborated this, even though other companies vehemently denied it's truth. Chrysler hit it big with the minivan and became the benchmark in that class of vehicles, which they remain to this day. GM should take a lesson from that playbook

 

Heck we sold a Packard a while back, what was left after it was converted to the powerplant for a belt-driven sawmill.

I don't know if the list is worth reading if this guy is a typical modern journalist. I'm sure some of the "worst cars" aren't at all bad - but something like the Airflow was just too far ahead of it's time for people to get.

Considering that on a Chevy Vega - and also the early '57 Mopar lineup - rust seemed to be an option included standard from the factory, you'd think those cars would be mentioned there. Especially the early Vega with that aluminum block 4-cyl that was only good for like 50K with the best of care.

You could probably put some of the '60's Renaults on there, too, I've never heard much good about them and I only seem to find them in yards where guys just took what people gave them and didn't crush cars.

 

@ the author of this article:
1. The name is "Zündapp Janus" and not "Zuenndapp".
2. It was built in "Nürnberg" nor "NUREMBERG".

This article is #1 of "Most stupid article written by most stupid author of all time" !

 

Funny you mention the '57 Plymouths. What about that horrendous attempt at electronic fuel injection? Great idea, just WAAAAAAAYYYYY too far ahead of it's time and the technology just wasn't there yet. I think they only made 50 or so, and they were recalled and dual 4s were installed on them instead. Jeez, that's like trying to rig up an EFI unit for my 383 using nothing but the parts from my Marshall stack.

 

I just think hes a tosser with no appreciation for old cars- not matter how frickin ugly a car is I'll bet that theares someone out restoring it because they love em.

 

I'm not out to prove you wrong or beleagure the point. I just like to talk about Ford stuff. So that being said I'm going to go ahead and agree with you, I'm sure other cars had adaptability in varying degrees. Witness my uncles `31 Caddy sedan turned wrecker. The point was that the T was most famous for it's adapablity.

Further the T was quite different in concept than most if not all other cars of it's time. What do I mean? I mean lightweight and thinner chassis components made of high grade steel. Crazy little T's had transverse springs. Why? Not because Henry did'nt know what parrallels were, but rather the Model T with it's spring arrangement had something like 12" of wheel travel. Remember we're talking about running these things on mud roads. Also look at the "wishbone" tying the front and back of the Fords right in the center where God and Henry intended. Need evidence that that was right? Look under the modern "rock crawler" and you'll see variations on this very theme.

Another cool thing was the planetary trans, a true forerunner to today's automatics. Yeah that system came about because Henry could triple or quadruple the gear strength, a valuable feature since stripped gear teeth were more common then since gear metallurgy was'nt up to the task just yet.

"Monobloc" engine? How many of those were around in 1908? Especially in the low price range. I'm pretty sure none since Henry and "Cast Iron" Charlie Sorenson invented most of these techniques to build them.

No the author threw the T in the 50 worst for the shock value as was mentioned earlier. The T has nothing in common with a failure automobile. It was cleverly designed. Built and sold in large numbers for small money. It was built for a purpose and a time, it's only real defect was that Henry tried to hold onto her too long. Technology simply passed her by.

 

Author must be a complete touchhole

 

He disparaged the Gremlin. Must be an earth muffin who drives an electric vehicle. Maybe the Honda EV which appears to be a car with nothing going for it.

 

I thought it was a fun read. I think what he said about the Airflow was right on. The American public just wasn't ready for it. A lot of people still say they still hate um...but I'm not one of them. As far as the "1909" model t goes, it looked like a piece of shit. Ya could get rid of the body and keep the hood and seats for a cool little speedster I guess.

Over all I liked seeing all the wacky cars people thought were gonna change the industry.

 

The list was half ok, and half bullshit.

The 71' Imperial? It was by all accounts an excellent car for what it was designed for - Chryslers Cadillac.

Under-engineered? Four wheel independant suspension? Four wheel antilock disk brakes? In a big luxury car in 1971? It was a hefty bugger though and needed the 440 to get it moving along decently. The imperial was so well built that they are pretty much BANNED from demolition derbies because the cars are too "hard" and kill all the other cars.

Same thing for the gremlin. It was one of the first compact cars and came with the tried and true AMC 6 cylinder. It was good on gas, very reliable, and had tons of torque, making it much faster than its Mustang II and Vega competition. The gemlin X was just silly. A compact car with a V8 and four speed (the 304 amc was the largest engine I believe was factory offered, but its externally identical to the 401) and was silly fast for what it was.

 

The author seems like kind of an ass-hat. After reading the whole list, I figured out that he was more entertained with his own wit and being glib than doing any real research or reporting. I have a hard time beleiveng that in the 100 years or so that the automobile has been a part of the American lexicon, and with all the circumspect engineering and bad design, plus downright dangerous cars that have been produced in that time, that THESE were the WORST. Just another space-filler for Time magazine, written by an eco-Nazi that almost excuses domestic terrorizm on a Hummer dealership. I wonder how much research he's done on the environmental impact of all the batteries in Priuses? Do some reading, tree-hugger....

 

The guy had a few good lines. "School buses flew past the '81 4 cyl Camoros in a flash of yellow" & talking about some mini turd "The rear seats faced backward so passengers could look in horror at the traffic hurdling at them." ROFL!

 

The guy is a bafoon and his taste must be in the joint he had for lunch. None of us were even there during the Model T's introduction to even know what looked good for the day and what didn't..... give me a break! Besides his big bitch was that the Model T put EVERYBODY (almost) in a car.
If any of you don't want your Grimlin or Pacer or Model T I'll take it off your hands.

 

When I saw the Title of this Thread I thought, Some fool loves one of the cars on that list, and he is going to have to say something about it.

I found at least 5..
So the joke is on me,
or on people like me. ( people that like cars...)

If you do a quick Google for best cars of all time, you'll find some lists with some of the same cars on it...

Maybe thats an indication of how random these kind of lists can be.


We've wasted too much space in this bullshit already...