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CHP pull over to check smog devices??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by no55mad, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. GassersGarage
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    If you get a smog manual, it will show what equipt is required in each state. However, I think it's a one time exemption and the following inspection, the vehicle will have to be updated. One of the reasons why grey market Mercedes died off. My brother in law is a Mercedes mechanic. He dealt with grey market cars all the time. It was 10K-15K to bring them into compliance.
     
  2. Mike
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    For the individual officer, yes, his motivation is likely career bosting. However, the criteria upon which he is evaluated in this area is set by those above him in the chain of command, I'm certain that a good portion of that criteria is geared toward the generation of revenue.
     
  3. Von Rigg Fink
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    i would really be surprised if this cop knew what he was even looking for..or if he knew what years and what engines had what as far as smog controls on them and how they even worked..I think it would be very subjective in court..if ya got the time to waste i would be standing in court with as many HAMBers as you could find and any do***entation on your engine and its application and what if anything it had on it originally as far as smog control devices..send that blue shirt ****n'
     
  4. axle
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    Jealous cop = ***** !

    Unless your Camaro friend had original California black plates on his car, whos to say the car didn't come from outside of California where the only thing cars came with were PCV ? And if that were the case how would some cop know the difference? From a guy who used to restore muscle cars a long time ago i know that California manufactured GM cars did come equipped with smog in 1966 & 1967,but most discontinued the pump in 68 ,only to go back to the PCV. What i'm getting at is that this CHP stop seems very strange and a big waste of time.

    If i were your friend i would of contacted the lieutenant at the station and complained. The more people sit back and say nothing the more **** like this will happen.

    My 2 cents.
     
  5. GassersGarage
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    Years ago, a memo came out to the CHP regarding tinted windows. Some states allow tinted windows. In essence, the memo stated that any cars driving in the state of California, regardless of state of origin, must comply with California laws.

    I know this was for tinted windows. Don't know about other offenses.
     
  6. Von Rigg Fink
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    oh yeah like im gonna stop at the border and remove my window tint,,get real Cali. freakin communist state
     
  7. primed55
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    I got h***led once in my 56 chevy. A cop walked up to me in a Taco Bell parking lot (while my car was parked) and asked me to open the hood to verifiy my smog equipment. I refused telling him the car was exempt, he was persistent, i finaly opened the hood and he was going on about missing smog pumps and valves and filters. The car did have a PCV valve i told him that was all that was required, and if he disagreed to call a smog technition to the scene. I think he may have realized, he wasn't sure what he was really looking for and kind of laughed it off like we was just ****ing with me and let me go.

    As far as out of state vehicals, i don't think they do it anymore but you used to have to pay a vehicle impact fee when you brought an out of state vehicle into California and when you got smoged your vehicle was registed as a Federal and you only had to meet those smog regulations.
     
  8. HOLLYWOOD GRAHAM
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    WELCOME!! to the Peoples Republic of California. In reality we are very lucky at the present time as all the laws to take our cars off the road are in place but are not being enforced yet. One day when the Tofu Eating Surrender Monkies decide to, they will issue the order to do so. Remember that about 3/4 of our engines are from smog controled cars and that smog stuff got left in the s**** bin. Don't forget about fender laws and lowered car laws too.
     
  9. Jalopy Joker
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    As stated, you techincally need to have the smog junk on. Out of State vehicles must meet Calif smog requirements to be registered properly.
    There are even check points along the freeway, usually at off ramps, that sniffs the air as your car p***es by. At the same moment there is an automatic picture taken of license plate. They will mail you a violation that you need to follow thru on with an inspection.
    There will be more crack downs on smog in all states due to global warming stuff and Federal funding.
     
  10. sko_ford
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    finally a good reason to live in north dakota. hell i could do nuclear testing here and not have as much to worry a bout
     
  11. Von Rigg Fink
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    hell here in michigan our govenment is so dam poor they dont give a **** what you drive..thanks granholm..oops is that to political?
     
  12. Brad54
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    So according to Al Gore, if we melt the polar ice caps, you're all going to be under several feet of water, right?
    Y'all better start packing to move, because I'm out in my back yard every night shooting cans of Right Gaurd with my ***ault rifle, quickly and expeditiously releasing O-Zone depleteing CFCs into the atmosphere, trying to bring on the flood. The quicker California is under water, the quicker the rest of our nitwit state governments will stop using you as an example of how the rest of us should live.
    As a bonus, my aim is getting fantastic! So go ahead and send your criminals out this way too, and we'll take care of them at the same time.
    Or...can't you guys just form your own country and leave the rest of us alone? I'm fine with touching the Pacific only in Oregon and Washington.

    -Brad
     
  13. photofink
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    THEY would have been out saving babies from contaminated food
    Even the CHP is no good nowdays
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Bort62
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    Well I have one idea. Instead of *****ing about it on the internet, everyone could contact SEMA and actually try to make a difference.
     
  15. Dan10
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    Time to register that rod with an out of state buddy. My parents who are married, and live together carry different residency for income tax purposes. They have a P.O. box in the state without income tax, as well as registered their vehicles in that state due to it being cheaper. They live in a different state.
     
  16. Von Rigg Fink
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    hey dan..i need tht info..can you pm me?
     
  17. MN Falcon
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    Dan, don't they realize they could spend jail time for tax evasion. Remember the Northwest pilots that went to jail for claiming they lived in Florida when in fact they only had PO boxes there?
     
  18. Von Rigg Fink
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    ooooh yeah that had ta ****
     
  19. Dick Dake
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    I agree with Brad, I won't even consider going to California for anything. Been there, did that the last time. They are even showing those damn California Cheese ads out here when I'm 2 hours from Wisconsin. Keep your ****, we don't want your stinking cheese!!!
     
  20. RF
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    Might want to read up a little more. The CHP officer was not out of line, and in fact, has every right to detain a vehicle if he has any inkling that it is not equipped with proper emissions equipment--the initial ticket-getter typically being a set of Flowmasters or similar. Regardless of what the car "came" with originally, it can be argued (by the law) that the vehicle must meet CA emissions equip standards, which pre-date a 1968 Camaro. Anyone in CA recall the huge "sticker" fiasco that happened almost 20 years ago? If you tried to register a non-CA emissions vehicle in CA and didn't have the underhood or core support sticker stating emissions standards met CA specs, they (DMV) popped you for an additional $300 right off the bat.

    Anyway, the exempt law is written to keep owners of pre-'75 vehicles from bi-annual "testing". As you somewhat elluded to, that does not mean owners are allowed to tamper, modify, or even remove any smog devices normally ***ociated with their vehicles, nor does it prohibit an officer of the law from roadside inspections. If you wanted to get technical, the only thing I think you could debate in court is if and when you were stopped thanks to a "rolling emissions test', wherein you were cited for excessive pollutant emissions (that counters the whole "test" aspect).

    This is just the beginning. And regardless of what everyone east and north of CA "thinks", don't be fooled by your gracious state's current lack of enforcement. It may not happen in the near future, but mark my words, once CA finally has its way with "US", others will fall in line quicker than anyone thinks.
     
  21. Bort62
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    That's fine, we've got too many damn people here anyways.

    If there weren't so many, we wouldn't have all of these stupid problems.

    Besides, your state will be just a few years behind. Don't worry.
     
  22. Ole don
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    The creep must have been a donut short of a load.
     
  23. knotheads
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    i left california over a year ago...california smog laws have always been a problem and i am sure there is more bad news to come.
     
  24. The Law
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    How much more clearly can I make this...

    Depending on what the citation is for...is what determines where the money goes. A seat belt ticket...federal, a stop light/sign ticket...state, any municipal code violation...city/municipality.

    I am no longer a Peace officer, but when I WAS.....the thought of earning revenue never came into my mind when I were to put the poke on some poor ******* for not wearing a seatbelt.

    The idea behind the legislation is revenue, sure enough. But that, I can ***ure you is probably not the motivating factor for the officer.


    Rob
     
  25. knotheads
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    i used to own a 1984 s-10 blazer...it was a 49 state car i was never required to install more equipment ,they always looked up 49 state spec and tested it.
     
  26. The Law
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    Ive done plenty of reading and have enough first hand experiance. If you take time to read all my posts, I think we are arguing the same point. I agree with your take on it, as it pretty much mirrors mine.


    Rob
     
  27. Silhouettes 57
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    If they start taking your cars away in Cali. just let me know and I'll bring a truck out there and load up as many as I can and hang on to them for ya....

    By the way California Highway Patrol has a ton more jurisdiction when it comes to laws reguarding the highways and motor vehicles, they are not like your local city cops or even the Sheriff Dept.
    Oh Ya I'm an X-Californian also, been here 4 years now.
     
  28. notebooms
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    This ****s. Don't know what else to say....

    -scott noteboom
     
  29. Sam F.
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    welcome back to the 70's....

    ...my dad has told me of the old check points they used to set up back then in the day....

    ,,,troubles if you drove a 'lifted' or hopped up car....(lifted means hydros to youz that dont know...),,he said you would be making a right turn on a street and the next thing you know there would be a vehicle check point...
     
  30. it only pertains to equipment that came factory on the car and 55-64? had open ventilation systems (road draft) the later had pvc. they cannot make you retro fit like the old nox or carb kits on cars that are not required to have bi annual checks. i know the police have the law behind them, but when did the police become smog spe******ts or even automotive techicians. how do they know the difference between a one way valve or a deverter valve, a pulse air system or air pump system or even what a evap system is. if they don't know (and can't p*** a smog test/cl***) then they have no right to even look let alone write a ticket. that's like giving a ticket for loud exhaust without a Decibel Meter and just by ear (oh wait they do that too).
     

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