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CHALLENGE: So you think you can DRIVE YOUR HOT ROD? Prove it!!!!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by KIRK!, Sep 28, 2007.

  1. KIRK!
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    You know, I don't know if there will be one in Puyallup, but I can certainly put in a request.

    Sorry, no one under 18.
     
  2. Billet, 20" wheels, digital gauges, etc.,,,and yes, I've been...not trying to start shit, just answering the question.

    Bryan
     
  3. Casey
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    kirk! I hate you ! you wanna race !
    I will be at fort worth next week end.
     
  4. KIRK!
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    Now there's an answer. Thanks.

    Yep, there's that junk there too. It's just a matter of whether or not you see enough of what you think is cool to justify the price of admission for you. There are lots of guys who can look at it all and get ideas. And guys who are happy seeing hundreds of non-billet cars for the price of admission as they walk by the stuff they don't like. Everyone is differnent. There are people who think $5 is too much to walk into Billetproof to see 950 cool cars out of 1000. Go figure.

    Personally I enjoy quality craftsmanship, and it comes in high and low dollar. My preference? Low dollar - but ideas come from the whole spectrum.

    There's a difference between not liking what other hot rodders bring to an event and saying that the people putting on the event suck.
     
  5. KIRK!
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    I'll go at it in the rental car. Or just ride with you.
     
  6. can I run a trailer thru the course? If I back in thru the gate will GG's give me 60.00 to be there? If I bring my own food and drink to the event, can I charge myself to eat it? If I have money, will it be necessary to where gold chains? Or can I just show up, pay the fee and have fun at a well run event?
     
  7. recycler
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    Kirk, are there any rules other than seat belts? open topped cars and roadsters allowed without roll bars?
    Brad
     
  8. KIRK!
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    The basic rules are:

    -DOT tires only

    -No passengers under 18

    -Pass basic safety inspection:
    Functional seat belts
    Proper brake pedal pressure and travel
    Sufficient throttle return spring and secured battery
    All lugnuts in place and tight
    Hubcaps must be removed
    All loose items removed from vehicle


    Of course, if you drive like a dick they'll kick you off of the track.

    Also, the Autocross is run by local road course racing clubs who really do a good job.
     
  9. recycler
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    Thanks Kirk. Sounds like a blast!
     
  10. hiboy32
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    from Omaha, NE

    Fun!!!!!
     

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  11. Brandi
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    Must get seatbelts...
     
  12. 50Fraud
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    I've been a GG member for about 15 years, and have been to 25 or 30 events. I have never had a bad time. I've been to Billetproof and the Primer Nats too, and didn't like them as well. I'd rather look at, and display, finished cars rather than rolling sketches. If GG did more in SoCal, I'd show up for more.

    But to the point: I'd love to run my shoebox on a slalom course; maybe my roadster too. Please bring it to OC or Del Mar, or even Pleasanton, and I'm in!!
     
  13. Dirty Dug
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    I wasn't going to comment further but after being referred to as a whiner I thought I would....To clarify, The Goodguys is an American business and as such should make money but to suggest anything at their events is free is ludicrous. I strongly support business in this country. That's what makes things tick. I've been to several Goodguys shows and had a great time with my friends but to be honest I've, in general, grown tired of all day in a lawn chair. I, along with most of my friends would rather organize a long drive than be seat sore from a chair but that's just us. Contrary to your opinion, Kirk, I can afford the money. Just don't suggest anything is free. I don't go to Home Depot looking for any free items either. This year I might have been there but I chose to go to NW Deuce Day in Victoria and you know what, it was free to participants and spectators alike because of sponsorship and municipal participation but that's because it's not a business. It is a non-profit event. There's a big difference.
     
  14. Chuck R
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    Stop with the $60.00 thing. we are talking the same price as a tank of gas.
    Sound like a lot of fun, can't wait for P-town 08
    chuck

    I was thinking about the $60 comment

    Let's think back to 1990

    Gas .50 cents a gallon
    house $100,000


    Now 2007
    Gas $3.00 a gallon
    House $600,000

    This is an increase of 6x

    So in 1990 dollars this $60 entry is a $10 cost.

    Cost increases are a part of the world we live in.
     
  15. joeybsyc
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    If you spend the day in a lawnchair at a Goodguys event that's your own fault. There's a TON of stuff to see and do, and if you chose not to, that's not the event's fault... You could sit in a lawnchair all day ANYWHERE and bitch about it. I don't work for Goodguys, I am not a promoter for Goodguys, and I don't know Kirk from Adam, but to bash him or Goodguys because it employes people and makes money is rediculous. As for rather organizing a long drive, isn't that what GETTING to Goodguys is? With a huge bonus of a weekend's worth of hot rods and activities at the final destination? I don't even have a dog in this fight so I don't know why it even bothers me so much, but I just can't understand why people would be upset that there are events like this to go to and people who support the stuff we're all into. I never see all these shows and events as "competition" for each other, I see them all as a great mix of fun stuff to do.
     
  16. Dirty Dug
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    I'm just stating a simple fact, one simple fact. Goodguys is a business. Who can argue that and that alone without making any other judgements?
     
  17. joeybsyc
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    Who said it wasn't? I like "free" stuff as much as anyone, but I've also found that you usually get what you pay for. You figure these huge fairgrounds should just volunteer use of the property for the weekend for a couple thousand people and cars, give food away, and get a volunteer staff of a couple hundred people to organize, promote and run shows every weekend all across the country for free? Yeah, I'm all for that too. When's the first show?
     
  18. Dirty Dug
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    You're missing my point. I'm not looking to argue only making a point. Nothing a business offers should be free.
     
  19. joeybsyc
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    I understand your point, and I'm not looking to argue either... I just don't see what the problem with Goodguys being a "business" is. I agree nothing is "free" when it comes to business too, however, if you paid 60.00 to get in to a place last year, and you pay 60.00 to get into the same place the next year, but there's more stuff to see and do, even if it wasn't "free", you're getting more for your 60 bucks than you did before, and to me that's a good thing.
     
  20. Dirty Dug
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    I didn't say there was a problem with it being a business, and a very profitable one I'm sure. I'd just prefer not having anyone trying to blow smoke up my ass suggesting anything is free.
     
  21. houseofhotrods
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    Randy, Randy, Randy - I thought you were a better fiction writer than that.;) I didn't even know you OWNED a trailer! It "almost" seems as if you are just trying to be a dick in this post. :D

    Now back to the purpose of KIRK!'s post - it's about havin' some EXTRA fun at an event. Goodguys, NSRA, BIlletproof, Grand National, LA Roadsters Fathers Day, Detroit Autorama - plus a shiteload of others - heck they are all businesses, and I bet they all make a profit, if they aren't - they won't be there for long. Some donate money to charities, but someone somewhere pockets a few bucks. Good for them. I am in my business to make a buck, and I expect others to do the same. They offer entertainment, and if you don't want to go, or think they are too spendy - DON'T GO!!! It's just like a concert or the movies, as someone mentioned earlier. The local shows charge 10, 20 even more for an afternoon of staring at each other's oil pans. If you go to a Goodguy's event and sit all day in a lawnchair - you're a dumb ass, or handicapped. I have been going to them for nearly 20 years, and have never taken a lawn chair into the event (I do do sit in one from about midnight til 2 or 3 BS'ing at the campground-as I can never sleep much those 4 days) I've never had time to sit during the day. There's too much cool stuff to do. I get there butt ass early - usually 7 am or so, and leave at Midnight or when they kick me out, for 4 days in Puyallup! The foods even 'gratis' on Thursday night. Those who piss and moan about the prices PLEASE STAY HOME. It makes it much more fun for those of us who are there. KIRK! never said the events were free, just was talkin' about it being an event within the event at no extra charge. He's not trying to blow smoke up anyone's ass. It's like trying to pick the black crap out of the pepper. Give it a rest. He posted something cool, and if ya got nothin' good to say, STFU. The smart money is to prereg BEFORE the first of the year, it's about 30-35 bucks. The ones who pay the most are the ones who decide to go at the last minute, or the day of the show. PLAN! Try buying an airline ticket 8 months in advance, then compare the price against a ticket the day you have to fly.
    The point of the post - WHO WANTS TO RACE?? I think the whole idea is cooler than shit. As I said before - I am in.
     
  22. Scotch
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    Anyone who has ever autocrossed anything anywhere would agree with KIRK! in a big way. Typically, it's more than $60, and you have to volunteer some course worker time too.

    This is a relative steal.

    The handling thing is cool (again) and seeing cars modified for increased performance being pushed to actually perform in something other than a straight line is really cool.

    The great part about autocrossing is that its relatively low speed, so the dangers are minimal. Driver talent becomes a big deal..which is pretty entertaining.

    This has been growing since the musclecar guys started making their stuff handle. With the history rods have with the Gymkhanas etc, this is a natural progression I, for one, am looking forward to.

    Its cool GG is doing this...I think itll have more participation from attendees than the drags did.



    My old wagon will run one of these somewhere. It used to be R&C Lee's wagon many moons ago, so it's only right that it gets put through the paces.

    (Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11929667@N00/sets/72057594110671642/)

    I actually want to see if I can make Drummond puke...preferably outside of the wagon.

    ~Scotch~
     
  23. Scotch
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    Do you modify these cars to perform better, or just to idle around from event to event?

    You could leave them bone-stock and do that.

    The whole idea of hot rods is to build a car to perform at a high level. Some of us actually still like that part- y'know, driving our fast cars...fast. If they break in a parking lot autocross like this, they needed upgrading, because these maneuvers aren't too different from accident avoidance...which is something more rodders should have a bit of practice at anyway.

    I feel this type of event will make rodding safer, because the cars and owners will have a bit of experience being pushed around corners and through hard braking. If mods need to be made, they'll become evident at an event like this rather than on the road...maybe in front of you!

    ~Scotch~
     
  24. langy
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    Sorry to disagree with ya Dude but if them parts broke it wasn't built right in the first place in my opinion.



     
  25. Brandi
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    Did you take the ferry to get there, eat food or stay over in a motel? Because if may have been free to some of the participants, but certainly not all. The businesses that are sponsoring these events are only doing so to make bucks, get their name out and the only reason they can afford to sponsor is because they are :eek: in business. And as for municipal sponsorship, the local Deuce/hot rod owners pay for that in their taxes. It's that age old battle of "there's no such thing as a free lunch." Let's make sure we look at both sides of the coin here.



    Houseofhotrods - Yeah! You're a late-nighter at Puyallup. I bet we've hung out then and not even known it.
     
  26. hotrodladycrusr
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    Would that be John by any chance?? If so I spoke with him on the phone two weeks ago for the first time. Seems like a real nice guy.

    If I promise not to puke, can I get an E ticket ride too??:D
     
  27. jawdrpn36
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    Hey kirk are you going test out yout golf cart on that hot course!
     
  28. Scotch
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    Yes- That would be John. He's an old pal from about 10 years ago now.

    I look forward to giving you a ride in the wagon, too! It'll be cool.

    I see you know Schwartz too- He's another pal of mine. I have one of his chassis going under my '65 GTO. It's a small world, ain't it?

    Luv ya Babe!

    ~Scotch~
     
  29. tjm73
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    This guy needs a sway bar. WOW! LOL
     
  30. KIRK!
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    Dude, you are hilarious! After you pay to get into ANY event (cars shows, the fair, and amusement park), you have to PAY for food, you have to PAY for parts, you have to PAY for rides, you have to pay for souvenirs. It goes on and on. The Autocross is held at no additional charge. The semantics of your posts are ridiculous. Are you the same person who looks at the fine print in a offer to find the loophole? Or picks up the DVD that's supposed to be $20 that was dropped in the $5 bin by a customer and holds up the line arguing about the price?

    Also, non-profit does not mean that they don't make money and don't get paid. My dad runs 4 non-profit medical centers. He and all of the employees get paid. So do the pople at Red Cross, Salvation Army and March of Dimes.

    What the fuck is with some of you poeple?

    ALL THIS POST IS FOR IS TO TELL THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO, OR ARE INTERESTED IN, THE TWO MENTIONED GOODGUYS EVENTS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING EXTRA TO DO THAT THEY MIGHT ENJOY PARTICIPATING IN.

    FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!

    Not interested? Awesome! That's more time on the track for those who are. No one was knocking anyone for not wanting to go until you guys started knocking those who do want to go. Jesus fucking christ some of you suck. Please start posting more about things that you like, because I'm going to love butting in and bashing your posts for no reason.
     

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